full-disclosure - complaints about the governemnt spying!

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Date: Fri Dec 30 09:12:32 2005
From: dave at horsfall.org (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: complaints about the governemnt spying!

On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Stan Bubrouski wrote:

> > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Jefferson, 1759).
> 
> That's actually a Benjamin Franklin quote, which is worded about 1000
> different ways depending on the source.

The above is close; the main points are "essential liberty" and "a little 
temporary safety".

In the meantime, perhaps some, umm, US patriot could tell me who authored 
these particular aphorisms:

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of 
patriots and tyrants."

"The Tree of Islam has to be watered with the blood of martyrs."

I'm having trouble seeing the difference.

-- Dave, who is not pro-US, so therefore has to be anti-US, according to Shrub