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Date: Fri Dec 30 01:16:53 2005
From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller)
Subject: Email Security

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Yo All!

Sorry to actually talk about security here, but this has been bugging
me for a while.  Check out the headers in the email I just got from
this list below.

Pay particular attentiom to this header that shows gmail signed the
original message:

DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com;
    h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:conte
    nt-type:references;
    b=CQy5RMmQmeDJoDvXBSoE3v/YxxeBPc4IA6LVT/GgWBA2oLOCW3GXWm+u/I4MT2v8LxpcJj3ntc
    6F4bOTORFK7BTPZKPL/QzFEydGmzcpN/4MO+myrzc8GgDTCliPpNH0TvhdPunxVMHqSMSHaMkdJq
    pXnHYohxyCQY/bmx5Mc/I=


Now notice this one that shows the signature failed after going through
full-disclosure:

Authentication-Results: catbert.rellim.com from=zoidenator@...il.com;
    domainkeys=fail (testing)

Is there any way to get the list fixed so that DomainKeys signing is
not being corrupted?  I know this is non-trivial but if we can't
figure it out then no mere mail admin has a chance....

It seems to me that gmail included the sbject in the resultant hash
and the [full-disclosure] tag added to the subject changes the hash.

Not sure what the proper workaround is, but I think the mailing list
is supposed to rehash the whole thing.

DomainKeys is not an RFC yet, but it will be soon.  We gotta do
something about the flood of spam.  My spamfilter caught 11k+ spam just
last weekend on just my persoanl account....

RGDS
GARY
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Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Blvd, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701
	gem@...lim.com  Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:59:56 -0800
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