full-disclosure - complaints about the governemnt spying!

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Message-ID: <OF4F016231.690A2711-ON862570EC.0057FBA5-862570EC.005805A5@kohls.com>
Date: Wed Jan  4 16:01:49 2006
From: Bart.Lansing at kohls.com (Bart.Lansing@...ls.com)
Subject: complaints about the governemnt spying!

NUMBER:
1056
AUTHOR:
Benjamin Franklin (1706?90)
QUOTATION:
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary 
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
ATTRIBUTION:
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN, Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, November 
11, 1755.?The Papers of Benjamin Franklin, ed. Leonard W. Labaree, vol. 6, 
p. 242 (1963).

  This quotation, slightly altered, is inscribed on a plaque in the 
stairwell of the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty: ?They that can give up 
essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor 
safety.?
SUBJECTS:
Liberty

full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk wrote on 12/29/2005 09:22:12 PM:

> On 12/29/05, Michael Holstein <michael.holstein@...ohio.edu> wrote:
> > > The security directives are secret because you don't
> > > show your hand to the enemy (except if you work for the New York 
Times.)
> >
> > Uh huh .. so the newspaper informing the public about an illegal
> > government program (after holding the article for a year at the
> > government's request) is "helping the enemy"
> >
> 
> Especially when "the enemy" is anyone who publicly or *privately*
> disagrees with the president.  Worse now US citizens are enemies with
> no civil rights and are imprisoned indefinately like rats...exactly
> what are we defending by spying on our own citizens with no cause is
> beyond me.
> 
> > It seems so many have forgotten who the true enemy is.
> >
> > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Jefferson, 1759).
> >
> 
> That's actually a Benjamin Franklin quote, which is worded about 1000
> different ways depending on the source.
> 
> -sb
> 
> > /mike.
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