Date: Thu Jan  5 12:03:06 2006
From: horatiu at provision.ro (Horatiu Bandoiu)
Subject: RE: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 11, Issue 5

Dear Biljana,

Just a brief answer as I have a bad Internet connection till Monday.
You can count on 2 CISSP we have for the moment (this year I will have 3
or 4 CISSP in my team): Stefan Catrinescu and Ionut Boldizsar. Stefan
still has to finalize the documentation for getting the certification
(endorsement, stuff like this) but he has passed the exam and Ionut is
OK with all. If needed, I can involve several more certified people (as
we are organizing the exams, I have full access to the list). I hope it
helps. 

Kind regards,

Horatiu

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Buffer Overflow vulnerability in Windows Display	Manager
      [Suspected] (ad@...poverflow.com)
   2. Re: Win32 Heap Exploits (Nicolas RUFF)
   3. Re: Buffer Overflow vulnerability in Windows	Display Manager
      [Suspected] (InfoSecBOFH)
   4. Re: Buffer Overflow vulnerability in Windows	Display Manager
      [Suspected] (InfoSecBOFH)
   5. Re: WMF round-up, updates and de-mystification (InfoSecBOFH)
   6. Re: WMF round-up, updates and de-mystification (InfoSecBOFH)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:12:08 +0100
From: "ad@...poverflow.com" <ad@...poverflow.com>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Buffer Overflow vulnerability in
	Windows Display	Manager [Suspected]
To: Sumit Siddharth <sumit.siddharth@...il.com>,
	full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Message-ID: <43BA4DF8.20907@...poverflow.com>
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haven't such driver here , it should be a third party driver security
bug probably within "*Controller Hub for Intel Graphics Driver"*

http://www.dynamiclink.nl/htmfiles/rframes/sys-i01.htm



Sumit Siddharth wrote:
> I think the problem is with the intel driver and particularly with
file
> ialmnt5.sys
> Hope it helps
> Sumit
>
>
>
> On 1/3/06, *Sumit Siddharth* <sumit.siddharth@...il.com
> <mailto:sumit.siddharth@...il.com>> wrote:
>
>     Dear All,
>     Sorry for the delayed response.
>     I  had success in exploiting it remotely by a simple javascript
>     <script>window.open("http://aa...");</script>. But i think it
>     doesnt work with some drivers.I am using XP ,professional, SP2.
>     and firefox 1.0.6. I am using a string of about 53,000 char to
>     overflow the buffer.
>     Thanks
>     Sumit
>
>
>
>
> --
>

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:42:21 +0100
From: Nicolas RUFF <nicolas.ruff@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Win32 Heap Exploits
To: Stefan Lochbihler <steve01@...llo.at>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Message-ID: <43BA550D.2090509@...il.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

> But if i execute the server without ollydbg there happen nothing.
> Have anybody an idea what i make wrong. Test on a winxp sp1 system.

As pointed out multiple times, Windows heap is not the same whether the
program is flagged as "being debugged" or not.

You should always *attach* the debugger to the process and not run the
process from within the debugger.

Regards,
- Nicolas RUFF


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 03:32:29 -0800
From: InfoSecBOFH <infosecbofh@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Buffer Overflow vulnerability in
	Windows	Display Manager [Suspected]
To: Sumit Siddharth <sumit.siddharth@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Message-ID:
	<2be58a30601030332t59b2ae5fj5ff97afc45580a9b@...l.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have only replicated this with the intel driver.  have tried others
and no dice.

On 1/3/06, Sumit Siddharth <sumit.siddharth@...il.com> wrote:
> I think the problem is with the intel driver and particularly with
file
> ialmnt5.sys
> Hope it helps
> Sumit
>
>
>
>
> On 1/3/06, Sumit Siddharth <sumit.siddharth@...il.com > wrote:
> > Dear All,
> > Sorry for the delayed response.
> > I  had success in exploiting it remotely by a simple javascript
> > <script>window.open("http://aa...");</script>. But i think it doesnt
work
> with some drivers.I am using XP ,professional, SP2. and firefox 1.0.6.
I am
> using a string of about 53,000 char to overflow the buffer.
> > Thanks
> > Sumit
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 03:33:21 -0800
From: InfoSecBOFH <infosecbofh@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Buffer Overflow vulnerability in
	Windows	Display Manager [Suspected]
To: Full-Disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Message-ID:
	<2be58a30601030333x3d7c4fc7v24fa1632f7be1626@...l.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

oh.. and by the way... only works with the intel driver (and only a
couple differnt versions) and is not exploitable... this is a DoS and
nothing more.

On 1/3/06, InfoSecBOFH <infosecbofh@...il.com> wrote:
> I have only replicated this with the intel driver.  have tried others
> and no dice.
>
> On 1/3/06, Sumit Siddharth <sumit.siddharth@...il.com> wrote:
> > I think the problem is with the intel driver and particularly with
file
> > ialmnt5.sys
> > Hope it helps
> > Sumit
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/3/06, Sumit Siddharth <sumit.siddharth@...il.com > wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > > Sorry for the delayed response.
> > > I  had success in exploiting it remotely by a simple javascript
> > > <script>window.open("http://aa...");</script>. But i think it
doesnt work
> > with some drivers.I am using XP ,professional, SP2. and firefox
1.0.6. I am
> > using a string of about 53,000 char to overflow the buffer.
> > > Thanks
> > > Sumit
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 03:34:46 -0800
From: InfoSecBOFH <infosecbofh@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] WMF round-up, updates and
	de-mystification
To: Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>
Cc: "FunSec \[List\]" <funsec@...uxbox.org>,
	"full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk"
	<full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Message-ID: <2be58a30601030334r37d3dam19df4ee9fbaf9f07@...l.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

So this patch is trusted because you said so?

I have tested and confirmed that this patch only works in specific
scnenarios and does not mitigate the entire issue.  Variations still
work.

On 1/3/06, Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org> wrote:
> Quite a bit of confusing and a vast amount of information coming from
> all directions about the WMF 0day. Here are some URL's and generic
facts
> to set us straight.
>
> The "patch" by Ilfak Guilfanov works, but by disabling a DLL in
Windows.
> So far no problems have been observed by anyone using this patch. You
> should naturally check it out for yourselves but I and many others
> recommend it until Microsoft bothers to show up with their own patch.
>
> Ilfak is trusted and is in no way a Bad Guy.
>
> You can find more information about it at his blog:
> http://www.hexblog.com/2005/12/wmf_vuln.html
>
> If you are still not sure about the patch by Ilfak, check out the
> discussion of it going on in the funsec list about the patch, with
Ilfak
> participating:
> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec
> Occasional information of new WMF problems keep coming in over there.
>
> In this URL you can find the best summary I have seen of the WMF
issue:
> http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=994
> by the "SANS ISC diary" team.
>
> In this URL you can find the best write-up I have seen on the WMF
issue:
> http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/167
> By Matthew Murphy at the "Securiteam Blogs".
>
> Also, it should be noted at this time that since the first public
> discovery of this "problem", a new one has been coming in - every day.
> All the ones seen so far are variants of the original and in all ways
> the SAME problem. So, it would be best to acknowledge them as the
> same... or we will keep having a NEW 0day which really isn't for about
2
> months when all these few dozen variations are exhausted.
>
> A small BUT IMPORTANT correction for future generations:
> The 0day was originally found and reported by Hubbard Dan from
Websense
> on a closed vetted security mailing list, and later on at the Websense
> public page. All those who took credit for it took it wrongly.
>
> Thanks, and a better new year to us all,
>
>        Gadi.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 03:37:09 -0800
From: InfoSecBOFH <infosecbofh@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] WMF round-up, updates and
	de-mystification
To: Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>
Cc: "FunSec \[List\]" <funsec@...uxbox.org>,
	"full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk"
	<full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Message-ID:
	<2be58a30601030337i2cba5f87i6b56e4799d897d5f@...l.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 1/3/06, Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org> wrote:

> A small BUT IMPORTANT correction for future generations:
> The 0day was originally found and reported by Hubbard Dan from
Websense
> on a closed vetted security mailing list, and later on at the Websense
> public page. All those who took credit for it took it wrongly.

Yes, important if you are a marketing guy or if your mouth is planted
firmly on the websense dick.

I am sure most of us are part of other and even private mailing lists.
 So the credit for discovery should go to whomever first PULICALLY
disclosed the vuln.  I have no idea who that was but thanks to a
certain few I saw this vuln in early December.


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