Date: Tue Jan 17 23:19:14 2006
From: fd at g-0.org (GroundZero Security)
Subject: Secure Delete for Windows

thank you. i didnt intend to cause such a huge response of nonsense and
i execuse to the rest of the list members who didnt take part in this discussion,
that they had so much trash in their inbox. 

it was only ment as small note of a updated version. i didnt send a huge 
advertising text, nor do i force people into buying or looking at it!

i guess some people always have to say something, even if its nothing
constructive. they have been too long on irc i guess :-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ad@...poverflow.com>
To: "sk" <sk@...undzero-security.com>
Cc: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows


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> it's against the charter true but it's tolerated because you arent the
> first to promote your tool and you won't be the last, idefense,
> immunity , cirt.dk , they promote all their works and I wish they will
> continue, just ignore the bad comments about this , or at least if it
> was comments from an useful person,  but in this case, GTi has nothing
> to say on this list.
> 
> sk wrote:
> > thank you for the constructive feedback. at least it was usefull
> > and not just some random flame. i do appriciate your comment, i
> > dont agree with some points though. it may be the default business
> > strategy, but if a single person (or a handfull) think they have to
> > complain that i announce a security application here, i do argue
> > about it. then again, i should better ignore such random bullshit
> > as there will be always some smart ass who thinks he has to post a
> > negative and senseless comment.
> >
> >> I guess you only consider orders useful.  I wonder how you
> >> respond to complaints about bugs?
> >
> > i'd appriciate it as then we can make the software more stable.
> > thats only good.
> >
> >> Remember! Swearing at your customers shows them who's boss!
> > done with sarcasm ?
> >
> >> ** this is not an endorsement or support of any community
> >> members, but rather an observation that it is typical business
> >> practice to treat even the most annoying potential customer with
> >> respect.
> >
> > i know that those arent even potential customers so thats why. a
> > real customer, of course, will receive a friendly response.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvan Boily" <yboily@...il.com>
> > To: "GroundZero Security" <fd@....org> Cc: <virus@...og.org>;
> > <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006
> > 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows
> >
> >
> >> Now for the lesson on business communication:
> >>
> >> 1. Dealing with open source proponents:
> >>> also not everyone posts their source so what is your fucking
> >>> problem?!
> >> 2. Elliciting positive feedback:
> >>> my god if you dont have anything usefull to say, then why dont
> >>> you stfu.
> >> 3. Commenting on community members**:
> >>> it seems suddenly after this n3td0rk shit, everyone starts his
> >>> own little flame wars over nothing
> >> Remember! Swearing at your customers shows them who's boss!
> >>
> >> ---
> >>
> >> I guess you only consider orders useful.  I wonder how you
> >> respond to complaints about bugs?
> >>
> >> Just a note; if you are going to market your product to people
> >> try to avoid making a negative impression!  And certainly, reply
> >> to people individually as you will, but if you are going to blast
> >> someone then do it privately.  I know this is not really my
> >> nature, but then again, I am not marketing products!
> >>
> >> ** this is not an endorsement or support of any community
> >> members, but rather an observation that it is typical business
> >> practice to treat even the most annoying potential customer with
> >> respect.
> >>
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