full-disclosure - PC Firewall Choices

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Message-ID: <a050c2f00601171542o37d217d0r85a92048d6b62739@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue Jan 17 23:42:13 2006
From: nicwerner at gmail.com (Nic Werner)
Subject: PC Firewall Choices

On 1/17/06, Greg <full-disclosure2@...andyman.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
> > [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf
> > Of Nic Werner
> > Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2006 10:05 AM
> > To: Steven
> > Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] PC Firewall Choices
> > Importance: High
> >
> >
> > ZoneAlarm - gets in the way, and hard to diagnose problems.
> > You end up turning it off because it never remembers your
> > settings and you can't trust it.
> >
>
> Rubbish. Sure it gets in the way. It is MEANT to get in the way. If you
> close it down, it is likely because you don't know how to drive it. The prog
> CAN be a little hard to newbies to understand if you want to go internet
> banking etc but people on this list ought to know how to handle it.
>

Getting in your way as opposed to letting you get work done are two
different things. Kerio does a great job of popping up and explaining
what is happening while I've seen more people confused by ZA and its
dialogs

No, we've turned ZA off as web sites or programs won't load
(Ciscoworks, nGenius, etc) and even though we've checked the logs of
ZA, nothing shows as being blocked. Turn it off and everything
magically works. I will never run the bloat that is ZA.

Talk about trust, I don't trust the logging capability of ZA at all
due to examples like the above. While I enjoy your rant to the choir
about not trusting programs, my point is that ZA doesn't show
everything while it is actively blocking something.

To each their own! As you can see Steven, you should just download
each one and spend about a week fussing around.

- Nic.