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Message-ID: <04db01c61d2a$a76a47b0$0100a8c0@nuclearwinter>
Date: Thu Jan 19 19:31:25 2006
From: fd at g-0.org (GroundZero Security)
Subject: Vulnerability/Penetration Testing Tools

or learn how to do such tests by hand as that is more accurate as any automated tool out there!
a penetration test shouldnt be automated it would miss too many bugs i.e. in custom php/cgi scripts.
a professional security audit can only be done by hand. period.
too many people rip their customers off with cheap automated tests. 

-sk
http://www.groundzero-security.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <greybrimstone@....com>
To: <mmadison@...i.com>; <fdlist@...italoffense.net>; <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Vulnerability/Penetration Testing Tools


> Madison,
>      See, thats the challenge. I am not looking for a tool that does 
> strict vulnerability assessments. I am looking for a tool that will do 
> an automated vulnerability assessment and then automated attacks 
> against those vulnerabilities. Core Impact has such a tool and it is 
> well worth the money. In fact, I already have that in my to-purchase 
> list. I am now searching for free tools however and haven't found 
> anything.
> 
>      My goal is to identify tools that have a high ROI... free == the 
> higest. Never the less, automation can only be used a limited amount as 
> it reduces quality and accuracy.... I know this.
> 
> 
> -Adriel
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Madison, Marc <mmadison@...i.com>
> To: H D Moore <fdlist@...italoffense.net>; 
> full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> Sent: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:02:59 -0600
> Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Vulnerability/Penetration Testing Tools
> 
>   I've looked at BidiBLAH (enfaces on the BLAH).  Their product does
> nothing more than take the results from
> Nessus, Metasploit and such, then cram them all together in a easy to
> understand format for your boss.
> BidiBLAH IMHO is not a vulnerability assessment tool, rather a reporting
> tool.  If anyone can correct me
> please do, since at one point I was in contact with BidiBLAH sales
> asking what I got for $10,000.00 outside
> Of the reporting?  Their answer, well let's just say I'm still waiting.
> 
> My two cent, Nessus.  It's cheap, effective, and probably the most
> supported network vulnerability assessment
> tool on the market.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>H D Moore wrote:
> 
> >>Er, woops, misread - you want to scan and automatically exploit
> systems.
> >This can be easily done with a little scripting and the available
> open-source tools. SensePost
> >>has a project called BiDiBLAH that integrates Google-discovery, a TCP
> port scanner, Nessus,
> >>and Metasploit: - http://www.sensepost.com/research/bidiblah/
> 
> >>The next version of the Metasploit Framework (v3) has support for
> 'recon'
> >>modules that technically you could use to automate this, but it will
> take some time before this is usable.
> 
> >>-HD
> 
> 
> >On Tuesday 17 January 2006 18:04, H D Moore wrote:
> > You should check out the Metasploit Framework:
> >  - http://metasploit.com/projects/Framework/
> 
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