full-disclosure - Industry calls on Microsoft to scrapPatchTuesday for Critical flaws

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Message-ID: <3a166c090603252008m5ac0d111qd8ddfd4c36c71834@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun Mar 26 05:08:50 2006
From: n3td3v at gmail.com (n3td3v)
Subject: Industry calls on Microsoft to
	scrapPatchTuesday for Critical flaws

Part of our "mind thought" is to poorly represent our cause while bringing
over premier issues in which the majority of the security community support,
especially in relation to corporate interests.

We're not looking for respect or for Joris Evers or Robert Lemos to write
about us, all we care about is that we change the "mind track" of the people
who can make a difference.


On 3/26/06, William Lefkovics <william@...kovics.net> wrote:
>
> >>hence the ideals of being an anonymous group.
>
> Yes, how convenient for you (which was really my point).
>
> What is a 'rogue' employee?
> One that is not trustworthy and doesn't have the gonads to leave their
> comfortable pay cheque?
>
> Anyway, best of luck to you, but the initiative your pseudo-consortium put
> forth in this thread is misguided, poorly presented, and makes others
> 'laugh
> with glee'.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of n3td3v
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:46 PM
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Industry calls on Microsoft to
> scrapPatchTuesday for Critical flaws
>
>
> Wow, hence the ideals of being an anonymous group. Like if names were put
> to
> list, they wouldn't be sacked straight away... Wake up, smell the
> postitives
> of being anonymous for five minutes, or maybe that leaves you, CERT, SANS
> a
> bit head rubbed, just like SANS once said FIREFOX posed a lesser threat
> that
> IE. OH, the guys I speak to at MS were chuckling about that one. Of course
> SANS reversed their claim that FIREFOX was less vulnerable than IE later,
> much later. The credibility of SANS, of course comes into questions, while
> folks at n3td3v c onsortium laugh with glee, as the big players get it so
> badly wrong infront of the international stage.
>
>
> On 3/26/06, William Lefkovics <william@...kovics.net> wrote:
>
>        Not to mention the absence of legitimate names of the folks.
>
>        -----Original Message-----
>        From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
>        [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> Mike
> Hoye
>        Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:08 PM
>        To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
>        Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Industry calls on Microsoft to scrap
>        PatchTuesday for Critical flaws
>
>        On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 03:39:32AM +0100, n3td3v wrote:
>        > One reason being the folks within the n3td3v group are actually
> people
>        > from MS, YAHOO, AOL, etc already.
>
>        You know, legitimate groups don't have to keep claiming, over and
> over, that
>        they're legit.
>
>        It's remarkable how that works.
>
>        --
>        "Totally mad. Utter nonsense. But we'll do it because it's
> brilliant
>        nonsense." - Douglas Adams
>
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