full-disclosure - [Fwd: Re: montspace -- child porn (site still up)]

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Message-ID: <444598CD.7070509@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed Apr 19 02:56:45 2006
From: chromazine at sbcglobal.net (Steve Kudlak)
Subject: [Fwd: Re: montspace -- child porn (site still
	up)]

n3td3v wrote:

>On 4/17/06, Gary E. Miller <gem@...lim.com> wrote:
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>>Congratulations, you whacked a mole.
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>This is the funniest shit i've ever heard. The government or whoever
>setup the website will be pleased. Although the government or whoever
>should let providers know when theres a mole website on their network,
>so they are aware not to shut the website down.
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I hate to get into International Law stuff here but oh well it is 
necessary. Usually I prefer to just
watch the goings on from a distance. Interpol and legal entities in the 
UK setup sites to attract
kiddie porn afficiandos, This works in the UK and Europe but fails in 
the US ever since the FBI
lost the "Innocent Images" case in the 3rd Circuit. Mind you it was the 
3rd Circuit and not the much
malingned 9th Circuit. The FBI and other enforcement authorities would 
have liked to have held that
it took "just one click to convvict".  However it can be sucessfully 
argued that lots of people, specifically
investiagtive reporters and others covering the "Internet Beat"  look at 
all sorts of sites to get a "lay of the
land/net"

These sorts of things are old hat to those of us who look over the civil 
liberties balancing act that goes
on in International Law. There is a lot of differenfce in the US due to 
the US Bill orf Rights, battered as it is
by worries about terrorism and the like.  Some rights which are 
automatic in the US are pretty alien in
other places. Of course Canada is an even more curious situation where 
there are thing one can do but
one can not film or boradcast,  Anyway this gets intertesting and 
convoluted  but I doinno whether it we
should go thruough all of it in full  disclosure. Although disclosing 
the full state of our cyber rights
would be an interesting thing to explore if it could be done without as 
much going into speculatuion
amd fantasy as usually happens.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve