full-disclosure - Amazon, MSN vulns and.. Yes, we know! Mostsites have vulnerabilities

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Message-ID: <449D90D5.80808@brvenik.com>
Date: Sat Jun 24 20:22:07 2006
From: security at brvenik.com (Jason)
Subject: Amazon, MSN vulns and.. Yes, we know! Mostsites
	have vulnerabilities



Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:45:47 EDT, Jason said:
>> You have a lot of nerve! It was not too long ago that I recall you being
>> the clueless one on the FD list.
> 
> Aye.. that he was, as we all were at one time (myself included, even if that
> phase *did* predate the creation of FD by more than 2 decades).  However,
> Morning has had enough sense to pay attention and acquire at least some clue...
> 
> Having said that, I'll posit that Morning is right - Milw0rm is a site well
> known enough that *by definition* an exploit showing up there moves it from
> '0-day' to 'just another damned unpatched vuln'. After all, 0-day means "an
> unknown exploit you can't defend against because you've never seen it".  Which
> is hardly the case for any Milw0rm exploit.

I completely agree with the milw0rm point. The intent of my reply was to
remind MW that he too was a clueless one ( in recent times at that ) and
that he would be well served to spare others the abuse he got when he
was learning. The incivility of FD and the space in general is a bit tiring.