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Message-ID: <4505C8E1.4050808@kennedyinfo.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:36:49 -0400
From: Troy Cregger <tcregger@...nedyinfo.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: OT - Check this out - Full disclosure is apt
	for this

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Everyone is... but this guy Jesse seems to actually be a fraud. Most of
the sites that originally carried the story have pulled it and some
http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article13.php?id=261 have
issued statements denouncing the use of fraud and misinformation as a
means to build opposition to the war.

Don't believe everything you see on the Internet.

c0ntex wrote:
> You are entitled to your opinion.
> 
> On 11/09/06, Philosophil <flosofl@...il.com> wrote:
>> A link to your own blog is not support for your argument.  That's
>> called circular reasoning.
>>
>> In addition, if you had bothered to do a little research, you would
>> have noticed *huge* discrepancies.
>>
>> Try here:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Macbeth
>>
>>
>> The unit he claimed he was in, was not deployed where he said it was.
>>
>> His flash (patches, unit designations) on his uniform are either put
>> on incorrectly, not used by the division he claims to be in, and/or no
>> longer used by the military.
>>
>> His uniform is wildly... well, inconsistent is the best word here.
>>
>> Some of the awards and citations he claims to have received would be
>> impossible to earn in the time he was active.
>>
>> Really, I am constantly amazed by the lack of critical thinking people
>> exhibit these days.  It doesn't take long to find actual citations to
>> back up a position.  A loon talking in a video is *not* a credible
>> source.  Unfortunately, people want to believe something that backs
>> their own opinions so much that they will take unsubstantiated stories
>> as truth and use that as evidence.  Of course when someone points out
>> that "evidence" is fraud and fake...  Well, at best the person gets
>> ignored, at worst a tool of the vast neo-con conspiracy.  (Seriously,
>> given the governments track record at keeping things secret... a
>> "vast" conspiracy is ridiculous at best)
>>
>> Hoax and fraud does nothing but weaken one's position regardless of
>> that position's overall merits.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/11/06, c0ntex <c0ntexb@...il.com> wrote:
>> > http://noderat.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!6ADE4614B66EADD2!1321.entry
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/09/06, Philosophil <flosofl@...il.com> wrote:
>> > > Uh.  You do realize this was a hoax, right?
>> > >
>> > > On 9/9/06, c0ntex <c0ntexb@...il.com> wrote:
>> > > > http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5587990522549547050
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > >
>> > > > regards
>> > > > c0ntex
>> > > >
>> > > > _______________________________________________
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>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > regards
>> > c0ntex
>> >
>>
> 
> 

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Troy Cregger
Lead Developer, Technical Products.
Kennedy Information, Inc
One Phoenix Mill Ln, Fl 3
Peterborough, NH 03458
(603)924-0900 ext 662
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