full-disclosure - Re: "Fire and forget" exploits?

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Message-ID: <4538F0BC.1040802@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:52:28 +0200
From: endrazine <endrazine@...il.com>
To: Brendan Dolan-Gavitt <mooyix@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: "Fire and forget" exploits?

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Hi,

Brendan Dolan-Gavitt wrote:
> Hi, I'm looking for examples of (remote) security vulnerabilities
> whose exploitation involves no guesswork--eg, no bruteforcing the
> return address, or altering your exploit based on the server's
> response, etc.
I guess you're thinking about _remote_ exploitation ? You don't have
to guess anything
for a local bo for instance.. Anyway :
> It seems like this kind of exploit is dying out, particularly as
> different flavors of Linux proliferate, each with their own
> slightly
Target the kernel ? Use linux-gate.so ?
Portability of your exploit will greatly depend on how you choose to
exploit the vulnerability, since it's quite common to have to choose btw
several exploitation scenarii..
> different libc and userland; in the Windows world, however, we
> still find "universal" exploits that work on NT4/2k/XP over a
> variety of service packs.
the language also affects some pointers. Anyway, if you need let s say a
jmp esp , you can try to choose one location in memory that contains this
opcode for several SP/languages. But I don't think you can prove any
exploit will be universal... (can you ? ;)
> Anyways, if anyone has come across things like this, I'd greatly
> appreciate hearing about it. I'm working on some new methods to
> deliver exploits at once while minimizing recon.
>
> Thanks, Brendan Dolan-Gavitt

Cheers,

endrazine-
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