full-disclosure - Re: iDefense Q-1 2007 Challenge -I WILL BUY FOR MORE

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Message-ID: <361240.59416.qm@web55504.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 04:10:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Mario D <phisher_hunter@...oo.com>
To: Simon Smith <simon@...soft.com>,
	Roman Medina-Heigl Hernandez <roman@...labs.com>,
	Untitled <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Cc: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: iDefense Q-1 2007 Challenge -I WILL BUY FOR
	MORE

So,

Let's say I know how to bypass the alarm to your house.  Should I put it up for sale and not worry about who buys it or why because it is "none of my business"?

Its people like you who give the security profession a bad name.

Mario


----- Original Message ----
From: Simon Smith <simon@...soft.com>
To: Roman Medina-Heigl Hernandez <roman@...labs.com>; Untitled <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Cc: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:27:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] iDefense Q-1 2007 Challenge -I WILL BUY FOR MORE


Oh, 
    About your ROI question, that varies per buyer. I am not usually told
about why a buyer needs something as that's none of my business.

On 1/18/07 4:22 AM, "Roman Medina-Heigl Hernandez" <roman@...labs.com>
wrote:

> Simon Smith escribió:
>> Amen!
>>     KF is 100% on the money. I can arrange the legitimate purchase of most
>> working exploits for significantly more money than iDefense, In some cases
>> over $75,000.00 per purchase. The company that I am working with has a
>> relationship with a legitimate buyer, all transactions are legal. If you're
> 
> <naive>
> 
> I was wondering which kind of (legal) enterprises/organizations would pay
> $75000 for a simple (or not so simple) exploit.
> - governmental organizations (defense? DoD? FBI? ...)
> - firms offering high-profiled pen-testing services?
> - ... ?
> 
> What about the ROI for such investment?
> 
> </naive>
> 
> Regards,
> -Roman
> 
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