Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:49:18 +0100
From: Prohest <prohest@...il.com>
To: "worried security" <worriedsecurity@...glemail.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, dan.egerstad@...il.com
Subject: Re: n3td3v denounces the actions of
	www.derangedsecurity.com

netsved, for the last time; you are a public figure in it-sec and even
less close to being a "known" hacker. You are however a few unique
things, of which suffering from serious mental delousions and paranoia
are the most interesing thing about you.
and

Netplet, you are not being envestigated or bugged, mmk? Anybody
serious knows you never have, never will "hack" anything remotelx
note-worthy. And why would they bug you, as you pump out tons of
disturbeing posts, which only have any value if used to estimate the
latest level of your  mental illness (today would be a Red day btw!).

Intelligence do not hire basement bound,  0-effort, death theat
throwing, delousional, highly emotional immature kids who think he can
hide behind hushmail or Tor and play with the adults?

Netflet. Seriously you must seek medical attention to help you deal
with the problems you have. Most people get well fast once they are
diagnosed. And go on to live long happy lives!

Please seek help, you need it asap.

Br

Horsie

On 11/16/07, worried security <worriedsecurity@...glemail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 2007 11:33 PM, Dan Egerstad <dan.egerstad@...il.com> wrote:
> > Do you know the powers? Powerrangers? Can they help me? Ohhh please help
> me
> > ohhh you mighty...
> >
> > I'm free, kicking and not charged for shit... don't know who you are and
> > couldn't care less but it does give something to laugh at =)
> > Go play with the other kids now
> >
> > //D
>
> At the end of the day you're the dude with the secret service
> following you everywhere you go now in real life for at least the next
> 6 /12 months or longer I would imagine.
>
> Enjoy the privacy or not as the case maybe.
>
> Sleepless nights, looking out your window every five minutes, turning
> round in the street seeing if anyones following you and generally not
> being able to trust people around you because they might be the secret
> service. Not knowing who the next phone call will be from, knowing
> everything you do on the internet is being watched by a human, every
> keystroke, every e-mail, every draft.
>
> I've been there, done that, bought the t-shirt.
>
> Its paranoia and it destroys you!!! It crushes you, this whole
> derangedsecurity.com stuff will crush you mentally if it hasn't
> already. I'm talking from experience, i've gone through these phrases
> of paranoia, it'll eat you alive.
>
> Maybe you're not feeling it yet, but it will creep up on you in a short
> while.
>
> Thats the down side to doing big hacks, the mental strain of not
> knowing if you've got away with it or not.
>
> One day you'll wish you hadn't your picture on those news articles and
> you hadn't drawn attention to yourself, it may take a few months for
> it to kick in if it hasn't already.
>
> The only reason its not already kicked in if it hasn't is you're
> young, guilible and immature, and you're still feeding off the ego
> rush of the media attention right now, but later in life it'll hit
> you!!!
>
> You're thinking "i've not been charged for shit". The possibility of a
> criminal charge is the least of the problems which comes with fame,
> being known by a large amount of people is a bad experience walking
> down the street, trying to get employed by people and generally
> operating as a normal person in life.
>
> You wonder all the time "Does he know!, "Do they know". And you get
> the people who do know, know everything about you, but you've never
> met them in your life before, and it scares you!
>
> I've been approached by people in real life who know more about me and
> what I do online than I do, it ain't nice.
>
> Strange people start being a part of your life, and you know why, but
> its never officially confirmed by anyone. The paranoia and suspicion
> destroys you.
>
> But basically you get the worlds intelligence services following you
> around from different countries with different agendas to find out
> things about you.
>
> I imagined at first it would just be one team of survallience from one
> country, but you end up having folks from a handful of countries
> following you about in everyday life. And those individual
> survallience teams aren't connected with each other. You can be
> walking down a busy high street with a crowd of folks all around you,
> you think are legitimate folks, but they are actually secret service
> from multiple countries working independently of each other, who don't
> know each other, but they all have one thing in common, they are
> following you!!!!
>
> It sent the shitters up me and it'll do the same to you.
>
> And you get the folks who have nothing to do with government following
> you around, and thats the scarist part. You get independant
> investigators following you around from the worlds security companies
> who have their own intelligence wings. The big corporations hire folks
> to do this, just for the sake of knowing intelligence about you. And
> then you just get the normal weirdos following you about who aren't a
> part of any government or private investigation company, and thats
> what is the worst part. Oh, and the random people who claim to be news
> journalists, who could actually be anyone, walking upto you, knocking
> at your door, e-mailing etc. You take the first interview, then you
> realise, that could of been anyone. It screws you up in the head
> afterwards.
>
> When you become public in the security community, its not the secret
> service which are the biggest problems, there are 100's of companies
> who follow you about because they want their own intelligence about
> you. You see all these websites that offer intelligence, who aren't
> the government but offer yahoo,google etc intelligence on folks and
> get paid for it, its not just technical intelligence they have,
> they've got folks checking up on you in real life too.
>
> who's gonna be on your tail for a while:
>
> secret services (world wide) they follow you for national security
> reasons to build a real life profile of you.
>
> security companies (world wide) they follow you to build a real life
> profile on you so they know if you're a threat to thier corporate
> dot-com customers, so they can best advise corporate security teams in
> the future should you become a repeat offender or determine if you're
> likely to be and who you meet in real life who might be part of the
> whole hacker thing with you.
>
> news journalists (world wide) they just follow you for the scoop, some
> of them announce themselves, others work undercover.
>
> freelance weirdos (world wide) these are just people who want to
> follow you about because they think they have a reason to.
>
> Enjoy it man, enjoy it. I've been there, send me a postcard won't you
> when you get there. ;) You'll be making a whole bunch of new friends
> who you think are your actual friends in the near future but they are
> all from these places!!!!!! I speak from personal experince this isn't
> a kid around, it actually happened to me. The reality and hidden
> pitfalls of being a known hacker ain't pretty.
>
> By being a known hacker, you thrown your privacy away pretty much for
> a long while.
>
> I would rather it was just the secret services following me, than all
> the other folks who come attached who want to know everything about
> your on and more disturbingly, offline activities.
>
> n3td3v
>
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