full-disclosure - Re: authentic hackers still do it for the love ... (was: Hell Camp: It never pays enough)

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Message-ID: <16707.1196623502@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:25:02 -0500
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: jf <jf@...glingpointers.net>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: authentic hackers still do it for the love
	... (was: Hell Camp: It never pays enough)

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:47:11 GMT, jf said:

> Here is the simple truth, there is no underlying outlook,
> background, dogma or set of ethics that define hacking. The only theme
> that applies across the board is breaking computer security.

And there's still a few hold-outs that don't agree with *that* theme either,
because "hacking" had a different meaning back in the Elder Days.

Of course, English is a living language, and terms like "hacker" and "0-day"
get redefined, despite our best efforts at preventing it.

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