full-disclosure - Re: Compromise of Tor, anonymizing networks/utilities

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Message-ID: <4ef5fec60712081453o4a31f044h839f222821e946de@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 14:53:21 -0800
From: coderman <coderman@...il.com>
To: "Peter Besenbruch" <prb@...a.net>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Compromise of Tor,
	anonymizing networks/utilities

On Dec 8, 2007 9:39 AM, Peter Besenbruch <prb@...a.net> wrote:
> ...
> > In fact, future designs should incorporate this infiltration into their
> > development; there has got to be a way to use this against them.
>
> Which is what TOR has done.

the decentralized design of Tor insulates one against any particular
entity gaining an upper hand in a sufficiently large and diverse
network.  Tor is the best of the breed, by far.

much more concerning are all the side channels around Tor when trying
to anonymize specific applications or protocols.  best to use a
transparent Tor proxy and virtual machine(s)...

> I think a better question would be: How does TOR compare with your bog
> standard anonymizing proxy server? To go further, how does TOR compare with a
> scheme like JAP combined with another anonymizing proxy.

Tor is best of breed, by far.

(if you need really strong anonymity though, better stick to the dead
drops and zero knowledge mixes...)

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