Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:55:15 -0500
From: scott <redhowlingwolves@...lsouth.net>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Critical Vulnerability in 

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An your earth-shattering views are *SO* important,you must make sure
everyone hears you.I think you just like to see your own posts.

I'm filtering your posts from now on as they are nothing but from a
wanna-be trying to play kids games in a mans world.

I shouldn't waste my time responding to a teeny- bopper,anyway.

Scott
reepex wrote:
> So you included me in here because my name has something to do with farm
> equipment? Did your message have a point?
>
> You wrote a bunch of nonsense flattering your favorite security stars and
> then attempted to flame us with one liners that did not make sense.. It
> seems you are caught in between the serious posters ( since you have no
> skill, you cannot post anything useful), and the trolls ( because you are
> not funny or convincing ).
>
> My version of full disclosure is calling out idiots with Cissps and
Phds who
> post here and think their XSS and earth shattering barragess of 0x41's
makes
> them security experts.
>
> On Jan 2, 2008 10:46 AM, <31415926@...h.ai> wrote:
>
>> Critical Vulnerability in [Full-Disclosure]
>>
>> The problem with full disclosure is that everyone feels the need to
>> fully disclose, even when their opinion and the information they
>> are purporting to impart is, well, bollocks. You can't tell them to
>> shut up as they think they're important and the internet gives them
>> balls of steel and verbal diarhoea, so we stumble from one tired
>> flamewar to another with no useful content being published.
>>
>> It's embarrassing.
>>
>> I'm an advocate of FD as a concept. I believe that there is no such
>> thing as an innocent on the internet and if you really are that
>> dumb, then you deserve everything you get. FD (as one of many like-
>> minded lists) forces the vendors to patch or die and eventually
>> write quality code. FD (the concept, not the list) is the ultimate
>> nuclear deterrent, without the mutually assured destruction lunacy.
>>
>> I have watched the posters to this list for some time. By far the
>> vast majority are transparently kiddies, sitting on their painted-
>> up laptops thinking of themselves as the techno-brats in the film
>> "Hackers" and hoping to grow up to be like the guy in the film
>> "Swordfish". They write in l33t5p34k and think that this somehow
>> makes them informed. Kiddies are the lowest form of life in the
>> hierarchy of information security and in the IT industry generally.
>>
>> You know who you are and so does everyone else. You are fools, and
>> an embarrassment to the craft:
>> Secreview (review of products/services you have never bought, are
>> you the goatse.cz receiver?)
>> Reepex (Isn't a reepex a bit of farm machinery?)
>> Gobbles (A nickname for a gay male prostitute)
>> Morning Wood (The holy grail of the viagra-abuser)
>> Gmaggro ("high value target selection", are you completely cocking
>> stupid?)
>>
>> Oh, the outrage.
>>
>> I can see it now. there will be armies of skiddies demanding that
>> the l33tz hack this f@...r, spam him, pwn him, and post defamatory
>> messages concerning her skills and possible employment
>> opportunities for her and her mother everywhere possible. Guess
>> what, kids? I don't care.
>>
>> No, not even a little bit. Do what you like, I could care less and
>> no one else cares if you live or die tonight, you sad, acne'd
>> little dewdrops.
>>
>> Calmed down yet?
>>
>> Good. I want you to consider something.
>>
>> The FD list consists of the following content (and what it has to
>> say):
>>
>> Advisories by vendors (we fixed this)
>> Advisories by individuals (I tested that and found this)
>> Advisories by infosec organisations (we found this)
>> Funnies (self explanatory)
>> Opinions (this sucks, what about that?)
>> Skids (I did this, aren't I great, everyone else sucks?)
>> Trolls (you suck)
>> Trawlers (I have something 0day to buy or sell)
>>
>> The top three (ie the useful content) is available in any one of a
>> hundred places, the bottom three are noise. The only people
>> interested in the noise are those who keep track of it for a
>> living.
>>
>> So, consider that by posting anything in the bottom three
>> categories, you are drawing the attention of those who take an
>> interest in your sad efforts to destabilise the technical crutch of
>> society. These people are better than you in every important way,
>> and if you so much as tiptoe across one of their lines, you'll wind
>> up sharing a cell with a 7ft gorilla called george with a dead
>> mouse and a pressing need to dry-cornhole your ringpiece 3 times a
>> night and twice on sundays. Do yourselves a favour and STFU.
>>
>> What's left?
>>
>> The funnies and the opinions. I've laughed my tits off at posts by
>> Mssrs Coderman, Diggle, Dripping, VanWinkle and Mengele, and i've
>> been interested by a few others who will remain nameless as I can't
>> list them all. Long live full disclosure, but keep in mind that
>> you're only legends in your own bedrooms.
>>
>> later, pi
>>
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