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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:59:09 +0530
From: taneja.security@...il.com
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Cc: websecurity@...appsec.org
Subject: 
	Re: 答复: 答复: The reason why "Pangolin is backdoor"

Why to believe on Antivirus !!! check it out urself ......No malicious
activity
no bot, no keylogger, plain code to .....:)
Then what is the meaning of BACKDOORED??


On 3/27/08, zwell.nosec <zwell.nosec@...il.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, Really?
> So you can compress using UPX again, then upload to virustotal.
> Check it out, ;)
> Thanks
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Razi Shaban [mailto:razishaban@...il.com]
> 发送时间: 2008年3月27日 14:54
> 收件人: zwell.nosec
> 抄送: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk; websecurity@...appsec.org
> 主题: Re: 答复: [Full-disclosure] The reason why "Pangolin is backdoor"
>
> I have enough experience with UPX to know that it's a fairly good packer.
> If you placed the backdoor into the code yourself, I'm not surprised
> that the packed version is UD by most virus-scanner.
>
> Doesn't make it any less of a backdoor.
>
> --
> Razi
>
>
>
> On 3/27/08, zwell.nosec <zwell.nosec@...il.com> wrote:
> > Just do it yourself pls, using the "backdoored" pangolin.exe you think
> and
> >  decompress it, then upload to virustotal, I did not change any bits ;)
> >
> >  -----邮件原件-----
> >  发件人: Razi Shaban [mailto:razishaban@...il.com]
> >  发送时间: 2008年3月27日 14:32
> >  收件人: zwell.nosec
> >  抄送: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk; websecurity@...appsec.org
> >  主题: Re: [Full-disclosure] The reason why "Pangolin is backdoor"
> >
> >
> >  Wow! Cryptors prevent viruses from being detected?
> >
> >  Who would have thought!
> >
> >
> >  --
> >  Razi
> >
> >
> >  On 3/27/08, zwell.nosec <zwell.nosec@...il.com> wrote:
> >  > Pangolin really is a backdoor? Let's do this step to make sure:
> >  >  1.Download UPX from upx.sf.net
> >  >  2.In cmd shell, run "upx.exe -d pangolin.exe"
> >  >  3.Upload the new pangolin.exe(actually the origin) to virustotal
> >  >  4.Check the result again
> >  >  I do these, and the result is:
> >  >  http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/b9d55c751d5eed7b34cda3fe708b1bd7
> >  >
> >  >  We can see
> >  >
> >
>
> Kaspersky,Sophos,F-Secure,CAT-QuickHeal,F-Prot,Ikarus,AntiVir,Prevx1,TheHack
> >  >  er,Webwasher-Gateway will not alert any more.
> >  >
> >  >  You judge what is it! Or maybe we should think about what does these
> >  >  Antivirus do???
> >  >
> >  >  Thanks ;)
> >  >
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