Message-ID: <002901c89406$e3c5e110$336b880a@softpro.corp>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:44:27 -0400
From: "Garrett M. Groff" <groffg@...design.com>
To: "evilrabbi" <evilrabbi@...il.com>,
	"Nate McFeters" <nate.mcfeters@...il.com>, <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>,
	<full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: CAU-2008-0001 - Slowly Closing Door
	RaceCondition

Although, in all seriousness, I can imagine "physical world" things being compromised, possibly via software attacks alone (or, equally likely, a single disgruntled employee). Allow me to explain using a particular example: safes. 

Companies that make safes (be they old-fashioned mechanical or electronic) often have records of their combinations corresponding to a unique serial number for each safe. Yes, they have an electronic database of all the combinations for all their safes. In the case of electronic safes, this combination is often un-changeable; the user of the safe can use that factory default code initially to create a "user combination" that can open the safe, but can later be changed (if you wish to disallow that user access later on). Anyway, the factory default combination can't be changed and is in a database somewhere. This presents a convenience on the part of the business that produces the safes (avoids angry customers who are locked out of their safes) but reduces security for all users of that company's products.

I understand the business case for keeping records of all combinations for all safes, but the downside is security in the event that that list/database is ever leaked.

- G

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: evilrabbi 
  To: Nate McFeters 
  Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk ; bugtraq@...urityfocus.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] CAU-2008-0001 - Slowly Closing Door RaceCondition


  Why would you realease something like this without telling the vendor? What you did is irresponsible.



  On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Nate McFeters <nate.mcfeters@...il.com> wrote:

    Hahaha, nice find.


    On 4/1/08, I)ruid <druid@...ghq.org> wrote: 
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                         Computer Academic Underground
                             http://www.caughq.org
                               Security Advisory

      ===============/========================================================
      Advisory ID:    CAU-2008-0001
      Release Date:   04/01/2008
      Title:          Slowly Closing Door Race Condition
      Application/OS: Physical Structures
      Topic:          Physical structures employing exit doors with locks
                     are vulnerable to a race condition.
      Vendor Status:  Not Notified
      Attributes:     Physical, Race Condition
      Advisory URL:   http://www.caughq.org/advisories/CAU-2008-0001.txt
      Author/Email:   CAU <advisories (at) caughq.org>
      ===============/========================================================

      Overview
      ========

      Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors to secure
      exit points expose a race condition which may allow unauthorized entry.


      Impact
      ======

      Malicious outsiders may be able to enter a structure via an exit point.

      Exit points may additionally provide an exit from a secure area of the
      structure, allowing an outsider entering through the exit point to gain
      direct access to the secure area.


      Affected Systems
      ================

      Physical structures which employ automatically locking doors at exit
      points of the structure.


      Technical Explanation
      =====================

      An exit's lock[1] generally converts a two-way door into a one-way
      door, allowing a person to traverse the door's threshold in one
      direction but not in the other.  These types of locks are used to
      secure exit points of structures so that people may exit via the door
      but not re-enter without disabling the lock through force or
      authentication.

      When a person exits the structure through an exit point which is
      secured by such a mechanism, a race condition exists wherein a
      malicious outsider may be able to reach the door and enter through it
      before it closes and locks itself.

      Many doors, especially heavier ones, also employ closing mechanisms[2]
      which are designed to cause the door to close slowly so as not to slam
      the door shut and damage the door frame, or damage any human appendage
      which may be in between the door and it's frame.  Such closing
      mechanisms can greatly increase the amount of time that the race
      condition exists.


      Solution & Recommendations
      ==========================

      1) Always ensure that personnel exiting an exit door wait outside the
        door until it has completely closed and locked before walking
        away.

      2) Employ a double door system such as is used in an air-lock where
        the interior door must be secured prior to the exterior door being
        allowed to open.


      Exploitation
      ============

      First identify the exit point that you want to exploit.  Stand at a
      safe distance during a high-traffic time and watch for people to use
      the exit point.  Time how long it takes for the door to close and
      lock itself when someone traverses the exit point.

      Next, identify a safe hiding place near the exit point, preferably
      in a direction that would be behind a person exiting the door, but
      which is within a distance to the exit point which you could traverse
      in under the door's closing time at a brisk pace or run.

      Finally, hide in this location during a lower traffic time and wait
      for someone to utilize the exit point.  After they have exited the
      door and are walking away, run to the door and enter before it has
      closed and locked.  Extra points are awarded for a spectacular dive
      and/or roll to catch the door at the very last second.


      References
      ==========

      [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_%28device%29
      [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_closer


      Credits & Gr33ts
      ================

      Theodor Geisel, AHA!, NMRC, Uninformed Journal, dc214


      --
      I)ruid, C²ISSP
      druid@...ghq.org
      http://druid.caughq.org


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