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Message-ID: <6426.1208194173@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:29:33 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: n3td3v <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Fwd: n3td3v has a fan

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:56:20 BST, n3td3v said:

> Security threater is good because it scares potential terrorists from
> being caught. It keeps the terrorists on their toes and worrying all
> the time.

No, it wastes lots of resources and keeps us from deploying security that
actually works.  There's no indication that the terrorists actually worry very
much about beating security-theater policies, and plenty of indication that the
security theater rules are causing *real* problems - for instance, the recent
event where a pilot's gun went off in the cockpit was likely due to very poor
rules on the part of the TSA:

http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2008/04/12/tsa-rules-led-to-pilots-gun-firing-in-flight/

> Usually airports combine security threater and real security together,
> and thats got to be a good thing, not a bad thing.

Actually, there's little or no *real* security behind the theater at most
airports.  If there was, why is there a real and persistent problem with
things like cameras being stolen from inside luggage by baggage handlers?

Starting from such wrong beginnings, your essay goes rapidly downhill from
there.

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