full-disclosure - Re: DEF CON 16 Retro Announcement! Back to Bang!

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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:28:06 -0400
From: Ureleet <ureleet@...il.com>
To: n3td3v@...glegroups.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk,
	"Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu" <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu>,
	The Dark Tangent <dtangent@...con.org>
Subject: Re: DEF CON 16 Retro Announcement! Back to Bang!

see:

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:57 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:

>
>
> See
> http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2008-April/061450.html
> to see how the bedroom hacker is no longer the threat and that the new
> threat to the internet is world government's and its intelligence
> services.

i dont think u can quote yourself as an authority in your own email.  its
like referencing your previous term paper in your current term paper.

> The way Def Con works is, the organizers think because they openly
> admit there are feds at their conference that there is no need for any
> further discussion relating to the admission.

if you had ever been to defcon you would know that spot the fed was started
as a joke

>
> To underline, the parents of the adolescents might not realise their
> child has put their home IP address onto a federal watch-list---and
> the  adolescents might not realise how much their human rights and
> liberties have been given up by entering into such a 'human honeypot'
> to which the terms and conditions of such a human honeypot isn't
> publically defined.

and how would these feds get the kids home addresses.... if um, they are AT
defcon?

>
> Security conferences no longer have the meaning they used to, and
> thats why i'm calling for Def Con to be shutdown.

okay, thats enough.  stop it.  youve gone off the deep end.  yes, defcon
isnt what it used to be, ive been there for years, and its changed with the
times.  i remember the dark tangents vbbs from back in the day when it was
in blacklisted!411.  heck i used to remember the number up until about a
year ago.

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