Message-Id: <24D033D7-F05C-4493-87F5-CCC128E43CF5@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:31:08 -0400
From: G D Fuego <gdfuego@...il.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: RE :OT - Don't fuck with n3td3v

Wow.  That is a spot on description of how you ate treating HD Moore  
and David Litchfield.

On May 7, 2008, at 12:36 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:43 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:24:45 BST, n3td3v said:
>>
>>> And you suffer from slanderous libelous defamation disability
>>> disorder, a new disorder I have made up for idiots on Full- 
>>> Disclosure.
>>
>> So you're saying he's suffering from a disorder that causes a  
>> disability in how
>> well he can slander, libel, and defame somebody?  If so, you should  
>> be glad
>> that you weren't slandered by somebody *not* suffering from it....
>
> Maybe not, but the situation currently on Full-Disclosure is this...
>
> False accusations. Many cyberstalkers try to damage the reputation of
> their victim and turn other people against them. They post false
> information about them on websites. They may set up their own
> websites, blogs or user pages for this purpose. They post allegations
> about the victim to newsgroups, chat rooms or other sites that allow
> public contributions, such as Wikipedia or Amazon.com.[4]
>
> Attempts to gather information about the victim. Cyberstalkers may
> approach their victim's friends, family and work colleagues to obtain
> personal information. They may advertise for information on the
> Internet, or hire a private detective. They often will monitor the
> victim's online activities and attempt to trace their IP address in an
> effort to gather more information about their victims. [5]
>
> Encouraging others to harass the victim. Many cyberstalkers try to
> involve third parties in the harassment. They may claim the victim has
> harmed the stalker or his/her family in some way, or may post the
> victim's name and telephone number in order to encourage others to
> join the pursuit.
>
> False victimization. The cyberstalker will claim that the victim is
> harassing him/her. Bocij writes that this phenomenon has been noted in
> a number of well-known cases.
>
> Attacks on data and equipment. They may try to damage the victim's
> computer by sending viruses.
>
> Ordering goods and services. They order items or subscribe to
> magazines in the victim's name. These often involve subscriptions to
> pornography or ordering sex toys then having them delivered to the
> victim's workplace.
>
> Arranging to meet. Young people face a particularly high risk of
> having cyberstalkers try to set up meetings between them.[6]
>
> Cyberstalkers meet or target their victims by using search engines,
> online forums, bulletin and discussion boards, chat rooms, Wikipedia,
> and more recently, through online communities such as MySpace,
> Facebook, Friendster and Indymedia, a media outlet known for
> self-publishing. They may engage in live chat harassment or flaming or
> they may send electronic viruses and unsolicited e-mails. [7] Victims
> of cyberstalkers may not even know that they are being stalked.
> Cyberstalkers may research individuals to feed their obsessions and
> curiosity. Conversely, the acts of cyberstalkers may become more
> intense, such as repeatedly instant messaging their targets. [8]
>
> More commonly they will post defamatory or derogatory statements about
> their stalking target on web pages, message boards and in guest books
> designed to get a reaction or response from their victim, thereby
> initiating contact. [7] In some cases, they have been known to create
> fake blogs in the name of the victim containing defamatory or
> pornographic content.
>
> When prosecuted, many stalkers have unsuccessfully attempted to
> justify their behavior based on their use of public forums, as opposed
> to direct contact. Once they get a reaction from the victim, they will
> typically attempt to track or follow the victim's internet activity.
> Classic cyberstalking behavior includes the tracing of the victim's IP
> address in an attempt to verify their home or place of employment. [7]
>
> Some cyberstalking situations do evolve into physical stalking, and a
> victim may experience abusive and excessive phone calls, vandalism,
> threatening or obscene mail, trespassing, and physical assault.[7]
> Moreover, many physical stalkers will use cyberstalking as another
> method of harassing their victims.[9] [10]
>
> A 2007 study, led by Paige Padgett from the University of Texas Health
> Science Center, found that there was a false degree of safety assumed
> by women looking for love online.[11][12]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking
>
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