full-disclosure - Re: fear mongering and utter BS from secnap

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Message-ID: <e9d9d4020805102056j12876169r7c50c6b1ae0d542e@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:56:10 -0500
From: reepex <reepex@...il.com>
To: "Robert McGuire" <rmcguire@...nap.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, 
	"don bailey" <don.bailey@...il.com>
Subject: Re: fear mongering and utter BS from secnap

I scratched my reply to this mail because don's reply was much better

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Robert McGuire <rmcguire@...nap.com>
wrote:

> I don't believe remaining anonymous invalidates comments, just seems
> unnecessary, much like FUD.
>
> Can't argue with reepex, FUD is unnecessary and utterly transparent so you
> have to wonder why every company in the "industry" perpetuates it.  It's
> counterproductive in fact, makes my job more difficult so were it up to me
> it wouldn't be a part of our message.
>
> If either of you have better insight regarding the impact, cost, effect of
> spam please share.
>
>
>
> Bob McGuire
> Director, Channel Sales East
> >| SECNAP Network Security
> Direct Line 404.446.1961
> 1-877-NOSPAM4U (877-667-7264) ext.1961
> http://www.spammertrap.com/
>
> SpammerTrap – Everything Channel Hot Product of 2008
> SECNAP Voted Hot Company of 2008 at Technosium Summit
> www.technosium.com/hotcompanies/
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: don bailey [mailto:don.bailey@...il.com]
> Sent: Sat 5/10/2008 10:39 PM
> To: reepex
> Cc: Robert McGuire; Michael Scheidell; Kevin Barnabe; Jennifer Hamilton
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] fear mongering and utter BS from secnap
>
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> reepex wrote:
> | so because I use a gmail account it means everything I said is invalid?
> | Why not answer some questions about your practices since it seems your
> | company is a bunch of script kiddies for hire & master's of scaring
> | people into buying services
> |
> | Also where did the 100,000 hackers figure come from? Did you make this
> | up also?
> |
> | On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Robert McGuire <rmcguire@...nap.com
> | <mailto:rmcguire@...nap.com>> wrote:
> |
> |     I'll take you seriously when you come out from behind your gmail
> mask.
> |
> |     Bob McGuire
> |     Director, Channel Sales East
>
> You may not want to take him seriously, but I suggest you take
> his questions seriously. People in this industry don't particularly
> appreciate FUD or bullshit "facts".
>
> And my name really is "Don Bailey" so you can be assured that I'm
> not hiding behind any "mask".
>
> D
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