full-disclosure - Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

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Message-ID: <81492.1211332264@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 21:11:04 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits

On Tue, 20 May 2008 23:49:33 BST, n3td3v said:

> How can you say the cyber world is unlikely to end when Cisco is the
> most widely used router on the internet today? Everyone uses Cisco,
> all the ISP's and everyone.

Except for the people who use Juniper, or.... 

Anyhow - if you can explain how it is *ANY DIFFERENT* than the situation
after Lynn's talk, where he basically gave the way to shellcode IOS, and why
the existence of cookie-cutter shellcode for IOS didn't break the net, but
rootkits will?

Hint - to rootkit a Cisco, you first have to shellcode it.  And the ability
to do *THAT* has been there for years.

> Even if the in the know guys secure their routers, there is still a
> hell of a lot of people who won't and a rootkit for Cisco will damage
> the internet, e-commerce and government!!!

Yes, exactly the *SAME* way that the Cisco world fell apart after Lynn's talk.

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