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Message-ID: <38540.1216397280@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:08:00 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: Joel Jose <joeljose420@...il.com>
Cc: Blue Boar <BlueBoar@...evco.com>, Brad Spengler <spender@...ecurity.net>,
	full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, dailydave@...ts.immunitysec.com
Subject: Re: [Dailydave] Linux's unofficial
	security-through-coverup policy

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:07:47 +0530, Joel Jose said:

> abetting the crime. But a GUI crash is always less severe. People can
> quickly loose trust in the software and the services that depend on
> them can be irrecoverably damaged. 

If continual GUI crashes cause people to lose trust in the operating
system, that's *more* severe for that system than the occasional security
issue.

>                                     Think about it.... there are more
> people engaged in penetrating, propagating security holes than filing
> common bug reports.... it definitely isn't a time-waster for them.

Do you have any numbers to back that up?  RedHat/Fedora's bugzilla is
sitting at well over 450,000 bugs now.  Remember that *for the user who
files the common bug report*, it's not a time-waster for *them* either.

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