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Message-ID: <48D17358.6020804@switched.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:15:04 +0200
From: "mach@...tched.com" <mach@...tched.com>
To: Ureleet <ureleet@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: News from Black Hat: Upcoming Events and a
 New Webcast

Ureleet wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:45 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>   
>> There has been a lot of publicity about the Marcus Sachs Youtube video
>> that is a clip of his panel discussion at Black Hat 2008, "Commission
>> on Cyber Security for the 44th Presidency".
>>     
>
> there has been alot of publicity... from YOU.  no one else gives a shit.
>
>   
>> Jeff, we need the full pdf, audio, video of what he said to put my
>> mind at rest, can you arrange it bro?
>>     
>
> bro.  like you know him.
>
>   
>> There is a lot of speculation now about the Obama sex video spam, Cnet
>> News is even speculating about a false flag cyber attack to influence
>> the political process.
>>
>> "Is it the work of the Republicans?" Cnet News said.
>>     
>
> ah yes, because u are in america?  oh wait.  u suck.
>
>   
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10038812-83.html
>>
>> n3td3v replied "Its the work of Marcus Sachs:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSUPTZVlkyU"
>>     
>
> he references himself.  i believe that's called something?
I think it's called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, alas - he's evidently
the sort that masturbates whilst looking at the mirror.

You aren't much help, ureleet - but with a name like that, I don't think
it's very expected.

You all need to begin to realize (if you choose to) that these lists
aren't watched only by so called like minded individuals. The
'social-fibre' upon which these lists were built suggests freedom in
communicating, but not as a playground for morons or scenewhores, but as
a learning and sharing environment of methodologies that aren't familiar
to all, regardless of if they seem antiquated or weak.

These current discussions go beyond the horizon of that which is called
pathetic. I'm not a firm believer or a supporter in 'full-disclosure'
but I've watched these lists and others, and find myself interested in
intelligent discussions; I regard Computer Security as a sport. I like
it, and I like tearing it down - With the sort of discussions here, it's
easy to assume that at least 40% of the readers could probably be
educated by #teenchat and #spam. Grow up.

This is a post, centric to 'n3td3v' a talentless scenewhore with
experience only in things like metasploit, ethereal and milw0rm, but
claimed to be a security expert; whom of which probably can't even tell
us what SPARC stands for, fortunately he has a lot of experience in the
regal art of kaspersky antivirus plugin/module design techniques. If you
have a problem, n3td3v -  blog about it. A unilateral response from you,
to this, would disgust me, that goes to everyone else on this list. We
don't want to hear from you, we want you to hear from us. Stop
attempting to work so hard to be children. It repels the fun for
everyone else who would like to participate in what these lists are
meant for.

Thanks for assessing this, whatever side of the field you're on.
--

mach


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