Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:26:15 -0400
From: Ureleet <ureleet@...il.com>
To: "mach@...tched.com" <mach@...tched.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: News from Black Hat: Upcoming Events and a
	New Webcast

k, i have a proposal.  i go away, if n3td3v goes away.  ill be watching.

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM, mach@...tched.com <mach@...tched.com> wrote:
> Ureleet wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:45 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There has been a lot of publicity about the Marcus Sachs Youtube video
>>> that is a clip of his panel discussion at Black Hat 2008, "Commission
>>> on Cyber Security for the 44th Presidency".
>>>
>>
>> there has been alot of publicity... from YOU.  no one else gives a shit.
>>
>>
>>> Jeff, we need the full pdf, audio, video of what he said to put my
>>> mind at rest, can you arrange it bro?
>>>
>>
>> bro.  like you know him.
>>
>>
>>> There is a lot of speculation now about the Obama sex video spam, Cnet
>>> News is even speculating about a false flag cyber attack to influence
>>> the political process.
>>>
>>> "Is it the work of the Republicans?" Cnet News said.
>>>
>>
>> ah yes, because u are in america?  oh wait.  u suck.
>>
>>
>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10038812-83.html
>>>
>>> n3td3v replied "Its the work of Marcus Sachs:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSUPTZVlkyU"
>>>
>>
>> he references himself.  i believe that's called something?
> I think it's called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, alas - he's evidently
> the sort that masturbates whilst looking at the mirror.
>
> You aren't much help, ureleet - but with a name like that, I don't think
> it's very expected.
>
> You all need to begin to realize (if you choose to) that these lists
> aren't watched only by so called like minded individuals. The
> 'social-fibre' upon which these lists were built suggests freedom in
> communicating, but not as a playground for morons or scenewhores, but as
> a learning and sharing environment of methodologies that aren't familiar
> to all, regardless of if they seem antiquated or weak.
>
> These current discussions go beyond the horizon of that which is called
> pathetic. I'm not a firm believer or a supporter in 'full-disclosure'
> but I've watched these lists and others, and find myself interested in
> intelligent discussions; I regard Computer Security as a sport. I like
> it, and I like tearing it down - With the sort of discussions here, it's
> easy to assume that at least 40% of the readers could probably be
> educated by #teenchat and #spam. Grow up.
>
> This is a post, centric to 'n3td3v' a talentless scenewhore with
> experience only in things like metasploit, ethereal and milw0rm, but
> claimed to be a security expert; whom of which probably can't even tell
> us what SPARC stands for, fortunately he has a lot of experience in the
> regal art of kaspersky antivirus plugin/module design techniques. If you
> have a problem, n3td3v -  blog about it. A unilateral response from you,
> to this, would disgust me, that goes to everyone else on this list. We
> don't want to hear from you, we want you to hear from us. Stop
> attempting to work so hard to be children. It repels the fun for
> everyone else who would like to participate in what these lists are
> meant for.
>
> Thanks for assessing this, whatever side of the field you're on.
> --
>
> mach
>
>

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