full-disclosure - Re: [inbox] Re: Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

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Message-ID: <4b6ee9310809301148h63a922acode9474adac3890d5@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:48:51 +0100
From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, n3td3v <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>, 
	info@...egary.org.uk
Subject: Re: [inbox] Re: Supporters urge halt to, hacker's,
	extradition to US

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Exibar <exibar@...lair.com> wrote:
>  Look, Mckinnon broke into the computer systems.

He never broke in, the door was open, he walked in.

> Under his own admission he ran scripts to help him do this.  Some of those scripts crashed systems.  He
> possibly deleted files and what-not in his travels, either willfully or not,
> doesn't really matter.  He loaded software on those systems so he could get
> in AGAIN easier...  AND he leaves a note threatening that he will do it
> again.
>

Proof or GTFO.

>  All this on KNOWN government computer systems.  He intentionally wanted to
> get into these systems to look for UFO crap.
>

He walked in, because the systems were 'public domain', he didn't
break in to anything.

>   This goes way beyond just simply leaving a note stating that your door is
> unlocked.  This is going into the unlocked car, putting in a remote control
> door opener, and threatening to re-enter the car again.
>

The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open.

>   He knew what he was doing, he knew who's machines he was doing it to, he
> was obviously going to keep doing it until caught by the sound of his
> message.
>

The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open.

>   He's a criminal, period.  He should be properly tried in a court of law.
> The way the UK an dthe US law is written, that means extradited to the US
> for a trial.
>

The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open.

>  All the protesting or debating won't change the fact that he's a criminal.
> Plain and simple, deal with it....  His sentence will be based upon what
> comes up in court, and it hardly ever is the maximum.
>
>  Exibar
>

The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open.

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