full-disclosure - Re: Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

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Message-ID: <4b6ee9310811061802r1f9ec795v64c7d72580c09eac@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:02:44 +0000
From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

i'm sorry that you don't agree with my heads up theory, i stand by
what i said however. i'm sure microsoft don't read full-disclosure
anyway, so you're right i'm not going to change anything. by the way,
i've noticed you haven't stopped stalking me yet, im a bit concerned
about your health. cheers.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Ureleet <ureleet@...il.com> wrote:
> first off, u arent going to get any1 2 change anything. so, lets get
> that out of the way right there.
>
> second of all, in order for u 2 prove ur point, id like 4 u to go to
> some research of how many exploits have come out during the 5 day
> period between vague-ass disclosure and patch publish.  then compare
> and contrast that against how many exploits have come out in the 24
> hours following the patch publish after people have had a chance to do
> bindiffs (u know what that means right white-hat?) against the
> patches.  then, take all that data, draw some charts and graphs, write
> a whitepaper, and present it somewhere.
>
> u know what thats called?  research.  real ppl do it.
>
> u dont.  and that is why, u suck.  ta ta.
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:34 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>> so you don't think its logical that these 5 day heads up could be
>> helping the bad guys out? right. i think the world's biggest hackers
>> could do a lot of research in 5 days. but then again n3td3v isn't
>> logical so i must be wrong. damn those drugs eh? i just asked what the
>> realistic possibility was for a 5 day turn around from the day of the
>> heads up until a patch is released. i just thought it was bad that we
>> were giving the bad guys a 5 day head start, but never mind n3td3v
>> isn't logical so i must be wrong. scraping the 5 day head start isn't
>> a good idea because n3td3v isn't logical? right, i threw away 10 years
>> of my life to not be logical...
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:20 AM, waveroad waveroad <waveroad@...il.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> You can be ""monitoring"" the scene since 20 years if you want to, it's not
>>> for that your point will be valuable.
>>> And actually it is not, also this is about logic.
>>>
>>> See you're wrong again.
>>>
>>> Get the fuck out of here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/11/6, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>:
>>>>
>>>> i've been monitoring the scene since 1999 so what do you mean no
>>>> experience? i make that about 10 years experience if my math is
>>>> correct.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Biz Marqee <biz.marqee@...il.com> wrote:
>>>> > Do you even understand why people dont like you? It is because you have
>>>> > all
>>>> > these crackpot ideas but no experience to back it up. All your ideas
>>>> > only
>>>> > make sense from a theoretical standpoint, but in practicality most will
>>>> > fail.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:31 AM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> blackhats like you will always hate on me, so i just ignore the
>>>> >> negative responses i get.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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