full-disclosure - Re: FD / lists.grok.org

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Message-ID: <13514.1231190138@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:15:38 -0500
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: Tim <tim-security@...tinelchicken.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: FD / lists.grok.org - bad SSL cert

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:47:20 PST, Tim said:

> How is that better, really?  Run tcpdump or ettercap...  Either of the
> tools are off the shelf.

And if the site is using a self-signed cert, how does a 3rd party tcpdump
manage to get a *decrypted* datastream?  Yes, you can still do traffic analysis
on the "X talked to Y with packet sizes A, B, and C" level, but you can't
look at the data.

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