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Message-ID: <4b6ee9310901112158k3b5ef30bg176092b0ae528caa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:58:54 +0000 From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> To: "Biz Marqee" <biz.marqee@...il.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: n3td3v profile... I don't think anyone on full-disclosure is a troll apart from Ureleet@...il.com, the rest of us are pretty serious about security and what we talk about. I know i'm serious about what I say and i'm strong in my convictions about what I say, even if you don't always agree with my points of view. There is no need to go around abusing me and say you hate me and turning a list against me, just because you don't agree with my opinion, how fucked up is that? Look at your own conduct if you want to talk about mental illness. The amount of bullshit that is made up about me just because you don't agree with my opinions on security is amazing. Have you nothing better to do than do what you do with serious researchers like me? If you don't agree with my opinion about a security industry software license, just ignore. If you don't agree on anything I say, just ignore. Don't send out a hate campaign and rally people against me, thats the real fuck up. On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Biz Marqee <biz.marqee@...il.com> wrote: > Informative, interesting and more to the point - its spot on. His self > medicating with illegal drugs also falls right in line with this.. > > and even assuming that this profile is all incorrect and this IS some troll > winding us all up, he invariably has some mental illness. no one sane - > whether a "joke" or not - rants on and on and on to a bunch of people who > detest him.. maybe for a while but not for years on end. > > n3td3v, get help or exit life. > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at :59 PM, - o z - <osgo@...mail.com> wrote: >> >> Andrew is a special kind of crazy....a friend of mine and former >> colleague who I highly respect (practicing Psych., >> who profiles individuals for a real doggone intel agency...alas, not >> MI-Jive) labeled Andrew as a probable >> schizophrenic with grandiose idealizations. >> >> These types of people usually can't hold a job. The most active >> period of delusions occur from 17-33, some >> think the drop-off may be due to decreased levels of testosterone as >> they age. Intelligence agency intrigue & innuendo is a classic >> manifestation, along with imaginary friends, martyr glamorizations, >> alternate personalities and repeated exclamations that they will >> curtail their >> behaviors, only to come back, roaringly, foisting themselves upon a >> group/friend circle with a different guise or mission. >> Some have said it resembles alcoholic behavior in the promises "to >> quit..." >> >> They constantly need an audience, since 'friends' are temporal at >> best...they churn through relationships like shit >> flowing through a goose...as people become estranged/exasperated with >> the constant epiphany's, revelations and >> God-like interpretations. >> >> Stranger yet is that people like this can be wonderfully charming in >> real-life....funny for awhile, but as they age, they >> start losing boyish charms that previously were >> forgiven...promulgating even more outlandish behavior as grow older. >> Sound familiar? We have a baseline here, folks. Also notice he >> hasn't written anything technical -- it's mostly >> outlandish hypothesis with pointers to..not infosec...but Andrew. >> >> They usually refuse medications to control themselves, because it >> dulls the essence of what they're trying to portray: >> someone mysterious, withholding critical information, being the sole- >> source of knowledge that might somehow change >> the world. >> >> IMHO, I would venture to say Andrew has attempted suicide -- his type >> is usually unsuccessful, indeed, it's not a suicide >> attempt but an attention-seeking event. >> >> He's bat-shit-fucking-crazy-nuts, but sane enough to fool someone >> unfamiliar with his MO. That's what is so aggravating about this >> particular form of mental illness...once again, as long as there's a >> receptive audience, the monkey will feel the compulsion to >> perform. It's akin to sexual gratification for him to see he's the >> subject of people's ire...don't forget that. >> >> This type of person will emotionally soul-suck everyone he comes in >> contact with, and make up dramas if only to suck more >> people in, because really, it's all about the adulation of n3td3v/ >> Andrew/????, nothing else. >> >> Solutions: There's a few, but I wouldn't want to be responsible for >> the end result; once again, n3td3v is a human たまごっち >> (Tamagotchi) and should be treated accordingly. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. 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