Message-ID: <296a304a0901112212m6f4d4509m68800271edad58cf@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:12:01 -0500
From: "waveroad waveroad" <waveroad@...il.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: n3td3v profile...

"From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Have you nothing better to do than do
what you do with serious researchers like me?"---->
"From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Subject: [Full-disclosure] It's time for me to go now
I don't know how to hack and I don't have any technical abilities I
must go now before MI5 take me away in a van and dump my body in the
sea. "
-->
how fucked up is that? :)
2009/1/12 n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>

> I don't think anyone on full-disclosure is a troll apart from
> Ureleet@...il.com, the rest of us are pretty serious about security
> and what we talk about. I know i'm serious about what I say and i'm
> strong in my convictions about what I say, even if you don't always
> agree with my points of view. There is no need to go around abusing me
> and say you hate me and turning a list against me, just because you
> don't agree with my opinion, how fucked up is that? Look at your own
> conduct if you want to talk about mental illness. The amount of
> bullshit that is made up about me just because you don't agree with my
> opinions on security is amazing. Have you nothing better to do than do
> what you do with serious researchers like me? If you don't agree with
> my opinion about a security industry software license, just ignore. If
> you don't agree on anything I say, just ignore. Don't send out a hate
> campaign and rally people against me, thats the real fuck up.
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Biz Marqee <biz.marqee@...il.com> wrote:
> > Informative, interesting and more to the point - its spot on. His self
> > medicating with illegal drugs also falls right in line with this..
> >
> > and even assuming that this profile is all incorrect and this IS some
> troll
> > winding us all up, he invariably has some mental illness. no one sane -
> > whether a "joke" or not - rants on and on and on to a bunch of people who
> > detest him.. maybe for a while but not for years on end.
> >
> > n3td3v, get help or exit life.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at :59 PM, - o z - <osgo@...mail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Andrew is a special kind of crazy....a friend of mine and former
> >> colleague who I highly respect (practicing Psych.,
> >> who profiles individuals for a real doggone intel agency...alas, not
> >> MI-Jive) labeled Andrew as a probable
> >> schizophrenic with grandiose idealizations.
> >>
> >> These types of people usually can't hold a job.  The most active
> >> period of delusions occur from 17-33, some
> >> think the drop-off may be due to decreased levels of testosterone as
> >> they age.  Intelligence agency intrigue & innuendo is a classic
> >> manifestation, along with imaginary friends, martyr glamorizations,
> >> alternate personalities and repeated exclamations that they will
> >> curtail their
> >> behaviors, only to come back, roaringly, foisting themselves upon a
> >> group/friend circle with a different guise or mission.
> >> Some have said it resembles alcoholic behavior in the promises "to
> >> quit..."
> >>
> >> They constantly need an audience, since 'friends' are temporal at
> >> best...they churn through relationships like shit
> >> flowing through a goose...as people become estranged/exasperated with
> >> the constant epiphany's, revelations and
> >> God-like interpretations.
> >>
> >> Stranger yet is that people like this can be wonderfully charming in
> >> real-life....funny for awhile, but as they age, they
> >> start losing boyish charms that previously were
> >> forgiven...promulgating even more outlandish behavior as grow older.
> >> Sound familiar?  We have a baseline here, folks.  Also notice he
> >> hasn't written anything technical -- it's mostly
> >> outlandish hypothesis with pointers to..not infosec...but Andrew.
> >>
> >> They usually refuse medications to control themselves, because it
> >> dulls the essence of what they're trying to portray:
> >> someone mysterious, withholding critical information, being the sole-
> >> source of knowledge that might somehow change
> >> the world.
> >>
> >> IMHO, I would venture to say Andrew has attempted suicide -- his type
> >> is usually unsuccessful, indeed, it's not a suicide
> >> attempt but an attention-seeking event.
> >>
> >> He's bat-shit-fucking-crazy-nuts, but sane enough to fool someone
> >> unfamiliar with his MO.  That's what is so aggravating about this
> >> particular form of mental illness...once again, as long as there's a
> >> receptive audience, the monkey will feel the compulsion to
> >> perform.  It's akin to sexual gratification for him to see he's the
> >> subject of people's ire...don't forget that.
> >>
> >> This type of person will emotionally soul-suck everyone he comes in
> >> contact with, and make up dramas if only to suck more
> >> people in, because really, it's all about the adulation of n3td3v/
> >> Andrew/????, nothing else.
> >>
> >> Solutions:  There's a few, but I wouldn't want to be responsible for
> >> the end result; once again, n3td3v is a human たまごっち
> >> (Tamagotchi) and should be treated accordingly.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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