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Message-ID: <4b6ee9310901221531u4b05411rc4471f2b29fa84be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:31:51 +0000 From: "andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com> To: Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider@...il.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: Barack Obama <-- Not Appropriate Remember in the Palestine war thread he accused you for working for Mossad and being paid to post on full-disclosure. Though he propagandas against n3td3v constantly to turn the world against me or something. Maybe its j-f sentier who is paid to be here and propaganda against things. He may not be a terrorist but he uses terrorist like tactics to turn hatred on. j-f sentier's defence will be, 'but 'Ureleet' done it so it must be ok to join in'. If 'Ureleet' told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? Andrew Intelligencer & Founder of n3td3v On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider@...il.com> wrote: > The fact that he bears the same name as me, does not mean it's me. > > I don't spam propaganda - I invalidate yours. > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:16 AM, j-f sentier <j.sentiar@...il.com> wrote: >> >> which propaganda ? >> >> you're spamming propaganda everytime you post. >> >> But i understand why now : >> >> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1049327.html >> >> "The footage also shows an Israeli soldier, believed by the military >> police to be Corporal Avraham Schneider, picking up stones and participating >> in the disturbance, instead of preventing it. " >> >> Everything is clearer than ever. >> >> 2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider@...il.com> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <A.L.M.Buxey@...ro.ac.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> > I called for John Cartwright to setup a non-technical cyber security >>>> > political full-disclosure mailing list some time ago, nothing was >>>> > setup. >>>> >>>> because he didnt want to - and theres no demand? >>>> >>>> > What are the solutions for splitting up full-disclosure into technical >>>> > and non-technical conversation unless two seperate mailing lists are >>>> > created? >>>> >>>> go off and create a yahoo or google mailing list for such drivel >>> >>> I second that. If he wants to have a list for different types of >>> discussions, the best choice is to just open one yourself. >>> >>> As for getting 'traffic' there, I doubt people would stop posting here >>> and start posting there (as nothing would stop them from posting it here). >>> >>>> >>>> and let FD go back to what it was a few years back - readable and >>>> useful! >>> >>> FD is un-moderated and as such people can post whatever they want >>> (security related or not). >>> >>> Usually, people would avoid annoying others with non-security related >>> topics - but in the case of js-sentiner and co., one can expect some spam. >>> >>> Sometimes, when they decide to attack others (either with propaganda, or >>> just because they are bored) , those attacked have two options - either a) >>> ignore it or b) respond with non-security related posts and defend >>> themselves (or oppose their propaganda). >>> >>> As far as readibility is concerned, that can easily be accomplished by >>> either white or black list filters - i.e. if you only care about a certain >>> vendor's patch notifications, put a filter to get them and blacklist the >>> rest; if you care not to get any andrew wallase/avraham schneider/js >>> sentier/whatever/whoever conversations - set a filter for that - and you are >>> back with a readable FD. >>> >>> Just keep in mind that your posts requesting FD to go back to being >>> readable, are not computer security related either (at least without >>> wickedly twisting the meaning of the phrase 'computer security'). >>> >>> So for the same reason you find it OK to post your request (and it is), >>> andrew finds it OK to posts his (and it is). >>> >>> Not trying to defend n3td3v or anything - but there's some hypocricy >>> here. >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ala >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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