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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:03:58 -0500
From: Pete Licoln <pete.licoln@...il.com>
To: Rubén Camarero <rjcamarero@...il.com>, 
	full-disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: List of Fuzzers

Well .. what i say is true.
If you cant argue on the subject then shut the hell up.




2009/3/6 Rubén Camarero <rjcamarero@...il.com>

> Dont satisfy this idiot with a response, thats what he likes.. Everybody
> knows Petie is a troll on every list just use google
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Jeremy Brown <0xjbrown41@...il.com>wrote:
>
>> The reason anyone writes a fuzzer is to find bugs. Those that I have
>> written are of course for the same purpose as the 101 listed: to find
>> security bugs. Your ideas are as meaningless and unhelpful as they
>> have been in the past. You have no goal but to troll and try to make
>> people look like fools, but you are clearly the ignorant one.
>>
>> What have you ever written? Let us see some of your code to poke fun
>> of. If it is as imperfect as you then we'd have a day of fun.
>>
>> >What's hilarious is that none of them are usefull :)
>>
>> http://www.milw0rm.com/author/1531
>> http://www.milw0rm.com/author/1835
>>
>> 90% of the research above were found by fuzzing, and those are public.
>> Clearly my fuzzers are useful.
>>
>> >You should really learn the protocol you want to fuzz, and develop a
>> >strategy before you create anything else.
>>
>> Although mistakes are inevitable, and seeming how the stuff I write
>> are pretty coherent to the protocol, your statements, once again, are
>> unjustifiable. The strategy is simple: gather points of input, fuzz
>> them, and watch for exceptions. Obviously.
>>
>> >Every fuzzer you've made use the SAME way to ""fuzz"" for differents
>> > app/protocol.
>>
>> Because using a fuzzing oracle is a very good way to identify security
>> bugs. Throwing random data will surely find lots of programming
>> errors, but I want a shell.
>>
>> > The only change i see is your last fuzzer .. written in a different
>> > language, but still the same way ...
>>
>> Yeah, I wrote it in C, and implemented a fuzzing oracle that way. I
>> probably put 100 hours into it, and it gave back some nice return. As
>> like the others.
>>
>> So, "what ever your real name is", I will continue to write fuzzers
>> and exploits. If you comments are meant to bend my attitude or
>> research rather than to troll, you don't have a chance, so get on with
>> your life and I will get on with mine. What a conclusion.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Pete Licoln <pete.licoln@...il.com>
>> wrote:
>> > What's hilarious is that none of them are usefull :)
>> > You should really learn the protocol you want to fuzz, and develop a
>> > strategy before you create anything else.
>> > Every fuzzer you've made use the SAME way to ""fuzz"" for differents
>> > app/protocol.
>> >
>> > The only change i see is your last fuzzer .. written in a different
>> > language, but still the same way ...
>> >
>> > 2009/3/5 Jeremy Brown <0xjbrown41@...il.com>
>> >>
>> >> That is hilarious LOL!
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Pete Licoln <pete.licoln@...il.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > 11 fuzzers matchs for Jeremy Brown on this page LOL !
>> >> >
>> >> > 2009/3/5 Krakow Labs <krakowlabs@...il.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Krakow Labs maintains a current list of security driven fuzzing
>> >> >> technologies.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.krakowlabs.com/lof.html
>> >> >>
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> --
> Rubén Camarero
> CCNA, CISSP
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