full-disclosure - Re: List of Fuzzers

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Message-ID: <c83481820903061504o3ee5e1a9gf79ef915ff17bb07@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:04:20 -0500
From: Jeremy Brown <0xjbrown41@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: List of Fuzzers

I consider you a loser, Pete/Julio/Loser.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Pete Licoln <pete.licoln@...il.com> wrote:
> Well .. what i say is true.
> If you cant argue on the subject then shut the hell up.
>
>
> 2009/3/6 Rubén Camarero <rjcamarero@...il.com>
>>
>> Dont satisfy this idiot with a response, thats what he likes.. Everybody
>> knows Petie is a troll on every list just use google
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Jeremy Brown <0xjbrown41@...il.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The reason anyone writes a fuzzer is to find bugs. Those that I have
>>> written are of course for the same purpose as the 101 listed: to find
>>> security bugs. Your ideas are as meaningless and unhelpful as they
>>> have been in the past. You have no goal but to troll and try to make
>>> people look like fools, but you are clearly the ignorant one.
>>>
>>> What have you ever written? Let us see some of your code to poke fun
>>> of. If it is as imperfect as you then we'd have a day of fun.
>>>
>>> >What's hilarious is that none of them are usefull :)
>>>
>>> http://www.milw0rm.com/author/1531
>>> http://www.milw0rm.com/author/1835
>>>
>>> 90% of the research above were found by fuzzing, and those are public.
>>> Clearly my fuzzers are useful.
>>>
>>> >You should really learn the protocol you want to fuzz, and develop a
>>> >strategy before you create anything else.
>>>
>>> Although mistakes are inevitable, and seeming how the stuff I write
>>> are pretty coherent to the protocol, your statements, once again, are
>>> unjustifiable. The strategy is simple: gather points of input, fuzz
>>> them, and watch for exceptions. Obviously.
>>>
>>> >Every fuzzer you've made use the SAME way to ""fuzz"" for differents
>>> > app/protocol.
>>>
>>> Because using a fuzzing oracle is a very good way to identify security
>>> bugs. Throwing random data will surely find lots of programming
>>> errors, but I want a shell.
>>>
>>> > The only change i see is your last fuzzer .. written in a different
>>> > language, but still the same way ...
>>>
>>> Yeah, I wrote it in C, and implemented a fuzzing oracle that way. I
>>> probably put 100 hours into it, and it gave back some nice return. As
>>> like the others.
>>>
>>> So, "what ever your real name is", I will continue to write fuzzers
>>> and exploits. If you comments are meant to bend my attitude or
>>> research rather than to troll, you don't have a chance, so get on with
>>> your life and I will get on with mine. What a conclusion.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Pete Licoln <pete.licoln@...il.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > What's hilarious is that none of them are usefull :)
>>> > You should really learn the protocol you want to fuzz, and develop a
>>> > strategy before you create anything else.
>>> > Every fuzzer you've made use the SAME way to ""fuzz"" for differents
>>> > app/protocol.
>>> >
>>> > The only change i see is your last fuzzer .. written in a different
>>> > language, but still the same way ...
>>> >
>>> > 2009/3/5 Jeremy Brown <0xjbrown41@...il.com>
>>> >>
>>> >> That is hilarious LOL!
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Pete Licoln <pete.licoln@...il.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > 11 fuzzers matchs for Jeremy Brown on this page LOL !
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2009/3/5 Krakow Labs <krakowlabs@...il.com>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Krakow Labs maintains a current list of security driven fuzzing
>>> >> >> technologies.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> http://www.krakowlabs.com/lof.html
>>> >> >>
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>>
>> --
>> Rubén Camarero
>> CCNA, CISSP
>>
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