full-disclosure - Re: Just Asking

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Message-ID: <4A769D99.1090606@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:19:37 +0100
From: Leandro Malaquias <lm.net.security@...il.com>
To: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Just Asking

Paul Schmehl wrote:
> Reading comprehension problems?  From what he or she posted we have no 
> idea if the email he or she posted actually exists or not, whether it was 
> a misunderstanding and Dan had actually gotten permission but it didn't 
> trickle down to the individual purported to have sent that message to Dan, 
> etc.,etc.
>
> IOW, it's a pile of hogwash posted without attribution making a claim that 
> cannot be investigated, or, as I put it, "selectively publishing on 
> that.....".  Or to put it another way, typical internet bullshit.
>
> So now you are defending a anonymous accuser posting unattributable emails 
> making unsubstantiated claims that cannot even be investigated and 
> claiming that I've done nothing to refute them.  The typical "so when did 
> you stop beating your wife" "reasoning".
>
> Excuse me if I'm not impressed.
>
> --On August 2, 2009 7:28:48 PM -0500 ghost <ghosts@...il.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> and yet still, none of what you posted has anything to do with Dan
>> commencing in questionable activities.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Paul Schmehl<pschmehl_lists@...rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>     
>>> Nothing is more impressive than some anonymous twit attacking someone
>>> who does their research under their own name with stolen information
>>> they should not have to begin with and then selectively publishing only
>>> that which bolsters their supposed case.
>>>
>>> --On August 2, 2009 12:03:18 AM +0100 Ew0k <sekuritymatter@...il.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> A friend of mine observed something that I believe should be put on the
>>>> table.
>>>> While reading the e-mails sent back and forth by Dan Kaminsky,
>>>> illegally published on zf05 one of the e-mails caught his eye:
>>>>
>>>> """
>>>>
>>>> Dan,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is another of our clients and you do not have the permission of
>>>> the client to perform this kind of scanning.
>>>> You have triggered over 22,000 events for us in this range alone as
>>>> well as caused a few other minor aggravations.
>>>> While you may believe you are a researcher and doing good, performing
>>>> your unauthorized testing on live production platforms is a reportable
>>>> offense.
>>>> I am going to kindly suggest you seek permission from various targets
>>>> before you continue your "research".
>>>> Please note I am under contractual obligations to report your
>>>> activities, we have recorded your "scans" on over 26 devices globally
>>>> and none of our clients have given you permission to perform these
>>>> "tests"
>>>>
>>>> """
>>>>
>>>> Now, according to this e-mail should Dan's CISSP certification be
>>>> revised?
>>>>         
>>>
>>> Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
>>> obvious, my opinions are my own
>>> and not those of my employer.
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>
>
>
> Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
> obvious, my opinions are my own
> and not those of my employer.
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>   
Actually it can be investigated cause the name and business information 
from the author is on the e-mail.
I'm not questioning Dan's competence, all I'm saying is do CISSP 
regulations apply to all or just to UNFAMOUS professional?

-- 
LM
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