full-disclosure - Re: When is it valid to claim that a vulnerability leads to a remote attack?

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Message-ID: <156738.1255349589@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:13:09 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: Rohit Patnaik <quanticle@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: When is it valid to claim that a
	vulnerability leads to a remote attack?

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:32:49 CDT, Rohit Patnaik said:
> Well, why are you relying on Thierry's clock to date your message?
> Your e-mail client should use your local clock/mail server clock to
> timestamp messages.

Hint: your e-mail client *can't* timestamp this message, because it has
no *clue* when I hit send on this message.  Consider that you can't even
trust the timestamp on the first Received: header, because I could very
well have composed the mail and hit send while offline, and it got posted
to a server once I had network connectivity again.

The  sending MUA is responsible for this, but often an end-user MUA will fail
to add a Date: header and the fixup is done at the first mail server,

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