full-disclosure - Re: How Prosecutors Wiretap Wall Street

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Message-Id: <20091106031354.05F6F7BD6E@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:13:53 -0600
From: Chris <r0ck@...ramail.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu,
	"Paul Schmehl" <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com>
Cc: full-disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: How Prosecutors Wiretap Wall Street

Why is it that Valdis has something to say about everything?

I see you on NANOG, full-disclosure, outages, and more.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
> To: "Paul Schmehl" <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com>
> Cc: "full-disclosure" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] How Prosecutors Wiretap Wall Street
> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:52:28 -0500
> 
> 
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:13:24 CST, Paul Schmehl said:
> > Of course, without a warrant they can't wiretap anything.  
> > Furthermore every warrant to wiretap has to be accompanied by 
> > evidence that justifies the warrant and signed by a federal judge 
> > who agrees that there is sufficient cause for the wiretap, and 
> > illegal wiretaps will not only get your case thrown out of court 
> > but your butt thrown in jail as well.
> 
> You're new here, aren't you? :)
> 
> We're talking here about the FBI, which has had problems with their abuse
> of surveillance from J Edgar Hoover's early years up to the recent problems
> with abuses of NSLs.  And you expect us to believe they'll toe the line
> when using this surveillance ability?
> 
> Oh, and how much time did J Edgar spend in jail for his illegal wiretaps?
> And how much time will anybody spend in jail for the NSL abuses?
> << 1.2.dat >>
> 
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