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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:56:37 +0000
From: cyber armageddon <cyberarmageddon@...glemail.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Gadi Evron: SecuriTeam: The Mossad: IE 0day for
	sale

Please don't give to Gadi Evron and/or The Mossad that would be a crime
against humanity and the west.

Remember folks, Securiteam.com is a front for Gadi Evron and The Mossad, do
_not_ send to them under any circumstances.

Only last month The Mossad were caught planting fake car bombs in Tel Aviv,
thats not a people you want to be associated with.

They fake car bombs could be a prep for anywhere, you don't know where they
were training for, it could be against any of us.

Report from BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8377746.stm

Analysis by Reuters:
http://blogs.reuters.com/axismundi/2009/11/25/frayed-cloak-rusty-dagger/

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Jeff Williams <jeffwillis30@...il.com>
wrote:
> And the question is now:
> should the Mossad, NSA, etc be considered as bad guys ?
>
>
>
>
> 2009/12/12 Jeff Williams <jeffwillis30@...il.com>
>>
>> If idefense pay 7000$ for a RCE on IE, it's possibly because they sell
>> theses bugs to the NSA, MOSSAD, MI10 ?
>>
>> From my understanding, MS do not pay for any reported vulnerability, or
>> maybe i missed the "make a donation" icon on idefense website ?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/12/12 Shyaam <shyaam@...il.com>
>>>
>>> :) Good one Valdis. That is what I was exactly trying to do.
>>>
>>> #1. If his intent was good, he would have sent it to the vendor and to
>>> the US Cert.
>>> #2. His aim is to get money:
>>>       a. Instead of selling it directly to black market and not getting
>>> any returns, or having some legal agency stepping onto his doors he
could as
>>> well sell it to these companies.
>>>       b. These companies DO NOT sell stuff to BLACK MARKET. Straighten
>>> your facts before you accuse any of the below:
>>> zdi,idefense,securiteam,immunity,etc. They have better things to do than
to
>>> sell it off to the bad guys.
>>>
>>> Besides, many people have that kind of a notion only because there are
>>> many hollywood movie fanatics out there, who suspect every single entity
>>> around you.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your creative response though :). You really cracked me up :)
>>>
>>> Shyaam
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:31 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:13:52 EST, Jeff Williams said:
>>>>
>>>> > zdi,idefense,securiteam,immunity,etc is a front, your exploit will
>>>> > anyways
>>>> > end up on the blackmarket by selling it to theses company.
>>>> > How can you be that naive ?
>>>>
>>>> You're talking to somebody willing to sell to the highest bidder on
F-D.
>>>> Draw your own conclusions about whether they actually care if it ends
up
>>>> on
>>>> the black market.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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