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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:29:46 +0200
From: Freddie Vicious <fred.vicious@...il.com>
To: cyber armageddon <cyberarmageddon@...glemail.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Gadi Evron: SecuriTeam: The Mossad: IE 0day
	for sale

Obviously you were banned for a reason, n3td3v. Spread your bullshit
elsewhere.

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:56 PM, cyber armageddon <
cyberarmageddon@...glemail.com> wrote:

> Please don't give to Gadi Evron and/or The Mossad that would be a crime
> against humanity and the west.
>
> Remember folks, Securiteam.com is a front for Gadi Evron and The Mossad, do
> _not_ send to them under any circumstances.
>
> Only last month The Mossad were caught planting fake car bombs in Tel Aviv,
> thats not a people you want to be associated with.
>
> They fake car bombs could be a prep for anywhere, you don't know where they
> were training for, it could be against any of us.
>
> Report from BBC:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8377746.stm
>
> Analysis by Reuters:
> http://blogs.reuters.com/axismundi/2009/11/25/frayed-cloak-rusty-dagger/
>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Jeff Williams <jeffwillis30@...il.com>
> wrote:
> > And the question is now:
> > should the Mossad, NSA, etc be considered as bad guys ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/12/12 Jeff Williams <jeffwillis30@...il.com>
> >>
> >> If idefense pay 7000$ for a RCE on IE, it's possibly because they sell
> >> theses bugs to the NSA, MOSSAD, MI10 ?
> >>
> >> From my understanding, MS do not pay for any reported vulnerability, or
> >> maybe i missed the "make a donation" icon on idefense website ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/12/12 Shyaam <shyaam@...il.com>
> >>>
> >>> :) Good one Valdis. That is what I was exactly trying to do.
> >>>
> >>> #1. If his intent was good, he would have sent it to the vendor and to
> >>> the US Cert.
> >>> #2. His aim is to get money:
> >>>       a. Instead of selling it directly to black market and not getting
> >>> any returns, or having some legal agency stepping onto his doors he
> could as
> >>> well sell it to these companies.
> >>>       b. These companies DO NOT sell stuff to BLACK MARKET. Straighten
> >>> your facts before you accuse any of the below:
> >>> zdi,idefense,securiteam,immunity,etc. They have better things to do
> than to
> >>> sell it off to the bad guys.
> >>>
> >>> Besides, many people have that kind of a notion only because there are
> >>> many hollywood movie fanatics out there, who suspect every single
> entity
> >>> around you.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your creative response though :). You really cracked me up
> :)
> >>>
> >>> Shyaam
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:31 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:13:52 EST, Jeff Williams said:
> >>>>
> >>>> > zdi,idefense,securiteam,immunity,etc is a front, your exploit will
> >>>> > anyways
> >>>> > end up on the blackmarket by selling it to theses company.
> >>>> > How can you be that naive ?
> >>>>
> >>>> You're talking to somebody willing to sell to the highest bidder on
> F-D.
> >>>> Draw your own conclusions about whether they actually care if it ends
> up
> >>>> on
> >>>> the black market.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
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-- 
Best wishes,
Freddie Vicious
http://twitter.com/viciousf

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