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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:24:17 +0000 From: cyber armageddon <cyberarmageddon@...glemail.com> To: fred.vicious@...il.com, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: Gadi Evron: SecuriTeam: The Mossad: IE 0day for sale Oh which part of it is _bullshit_? Do you research before replying. On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Freddie Vicious <fred.vicious@...il.com> wrote: > > Obviously you were banned for a reason, n3td3v. Spread your bullshit elsewhere. > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:56 PM, cyber armageddon <cyberarmageddon@...glemail.com> wrote: >> >> Please don't give to Gadi Evron and/or The Mossad that would be a crime against humanity and the west. >> >> Remember folks, Securiteam.com is a front for Gadi Evron and The Mossad, do _not_ send to them under any circumstances. >> >> Only last month The Mossad were caught planting fake car bombs in Tel Aviv, thats not a people you want to be associated with. >> >> They fake car bombs could be a prep for anywhere, you don't know where they were training for, it could be against any of us. >> >> Report from BBC: >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8377746.stm >> >> Analysis by Reuters: >> http://blogs.reuters.com/axismundi/2009/11/25/frayed-cloak-rusty-dagger/ >> >> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Jeff Williams <jeffwillis30@...il.com> wrote: >> > And the question is now: >> > should the Mossad, NSA, etc be considered as bad guys ? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 2009/12/12 Jeff Williams <jeffwillis30@...il.com> >> >> >> >> If idefense pay 7000$ for a RCE on IE, it's possibly because they sell >> >> theses bugs to the NSA, MOSSAD, MI10 ? >> >> >> >> From my understanding, MS do not pay for any reported vulnerability, or >> >> maybe i missed the "make a donation" icon on idefense website ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2009/12/12 Shyaam <shyaam@...il.com> >> >>> >> >>> :) Good one Valdis. That is what I was exactly trying to do. >> >>> >> >>> #1. If his intent was good, he would have sent it to the vendor and to >> >>> the US Cert. >> >>> #2. His aim is to get money: >> >>> a. Instead of selling it directly to black market and not getting >> >>> any returns, or having some legal agency stepping onto his doors he could as >> >>> well sell it to these companies. >> >>> b. These companies DO NOT sell stuff to BLACK MARKET. Straighten >> >>> your facts before you accuse any of the below: >> >>> zdi,idefense,securiteam,immunity,etc. They have better things to do than to >> >>> sell it off to the bad guys. >> >>> >> >>> Besides, many people have that kind of a notion only because there are >> >>> many hollywood movie fanatics out there, who suspect every single entity >> >>> around you. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks for your creative response though :). You really cracked me up :) >> >>> >> >>> Shyaam >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:31 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:13:52 EST, Jeff Williams said: >> >>>> >> >>>> > zdi,idefense,securiteam,immunity,etc is a front, your exploit will >> >>>> > anyways >> >>>> > end up on the blackmarket by selling it to theses company. >> >>>> > How can you be that naive ? >> >>>> >> >>>> You're talking to somebody willing to sell to the highest bidder on F-D. >> >>>> Draw your own conclusions about whether they actually care if it ends up >> >>>> on >> >>>> the black market. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > -- > Best wishes, > Freddie Vicious > http://twitter.com/viciousf _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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