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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:24:17 +0000
From: cyber armageddon <cyberarmageddon@...glemail.com>
To: fred.vicious@...il.com, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Gadi Evron: SecuriTeam: The Mossad: IE 0day
	for sale

Oh which part of it is _bullshit_? Do you research before replying.

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Freddie Vicious
<fred.vicious@...il.com> wrote:
>
> Obviously you were banned for a reason, n3td3v. Spread your bullshit elsewhere.
>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:56 PM, cyber armageddon <cyberarmageddon@...glemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Please don't give to Gadi Evron and/or The Mossad that would be a crime against humanity and the west.
>>
>> Remember folks, Securiteam.com is a front for Gadi Evron and The Mossad, do _not_ send to them under any circumstances.
>>
>> Only last month The Mossad were caught planting fake car bombs in Tel Aviv, thats not a people you want to be associated with.
>>
>> They fake car bombs could be a prep for anywhere, you don't know where they were training for, it could be against any of us.
>>
>> Report from BBC:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8377746.stm
>>
>> Analysis by Reuters:
>> http://blogs.reuters.com/axismundi/2009/11/25/frayed-cloak-rusty-dagger/
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Jeff Williams <jeffwillis30@...il.com> wrote:
>> > And the question is now:
>> > should the Mossad, NSA, etc be considered as bad guys ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/12/12 Jeff Williams <jeffwillis30@...il.com>
>> >>
>> >> If idefense pay 7000$ for a RCE on IE, it's possibly because they sell
>> >> theses bugs to the NSA, MOSSAD, MI10 ?
>> >>
>> >> From my understanding, MS do not pay for any reported vulnerability, or
>> >> maybe i missed the "make a donation" icon on idefense website ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2009/12/12 Shyaam <shyaam@...il.com>
>> >>>
>> >>> :) Good one Valdis. That is what I was exactly trying to do.
>> >>>
>> >>> #1. If his intent was good, he would have sent it to the vendor and to
>> >>> the US Cert.
>> >>> #2. His aim is to get money:
>> >>>       a. Instead of selling it directly to black market and not getting
>> >>> any returns, or having some legal agency stepping onto his doors he could as
>> >>> well sell it to these companies.
>> >>>       b. These companies DO NOT sell stuff to BLACK MARKET. Straighten
>> >>> your facts before you accuse any of the below:
>> >>> zdi,idefense,securiteam,immunity,etc. They have better things to do than to
>> >>> sell it off to the bad guys.
>> >>>
>> >>> Besides, many people have that kind of a notion only because there are
>> >>> many hollywood movie fanatics out there, who suspect every single entity
>> >>> around you.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for your creative response though :). You really cracked me up :)
>> >>>
>> >>> Shyaam
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:31 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:13:52 EST, Jeff Williams said:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > zdi,idefense,securiteam,immunity,etc is a front, your exploit will
>> >>>> > anyways
>> >>>> > end up on the blackmarket by selling it to theses company.
>> >>>> > How can you be that naive ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You're talking to somebody willing to sell to the highest bidder on F-D.
>> >>>> Draw your own conclusions about whether they actually care if it ends up
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> the black market.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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>
>
> --
> Best wishes,
> Freddie Vicious
> http://twitter.com/viciousf

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