full-disclosure - Re: go public to avoid jail

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Message-ID: <n2w2d6724811005031016oae26eebxf8d46d25d9cda4bf@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 13:16:54 -0400
From: T Biehn <tbiehn@...il.com>
To: Marsh Ray <marsh@...endedsubset.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: go public to avoid jail

Which is why this analogy is flawed.

-Travis

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Marsh Ray <marsh@...endedsubset.com> wrote:

>
> If your knife is found in a dead body, you've going to have some
> explaining to do.
>
> If it turns out that you're a restaurant supply business that sells 3000
> of that model knife a week, then you don't have a problem.
>
> If your buddy comes to you and says "I'm going to go stab some people
> and take their money will you construct for me a custom knife
> particularly well-suited for that purpose" and you say "sure, here you
> go, heh, no charge this time" and this conversation is recorded as
> evidence then both of you are going to get prosecuted.
>
> No one (seriously, no one) is going to be the least bit impressed by the
> "factories sell knives all the time" argument. The point is that you
> knew this specific knife was intended to be used in for this purpose and
> you decided to go out of your way to help.
>
> Hacking/pen-test tools can definitely push the gray area a bit, but the
> custom-knife-in-dead-body example does not.
>
> - Marsh
>
> On 5/3/2010 5:34 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
> > No, I'm being damn realistic. If it weren't me providing a knife to "my
> > buddy" it would be someone else, or some kitchen drawer.
> >
> > Also, why do I go to jail, not the shop owner that sold me the knife? Or
> the
> > factory owner?
> >
> > It's this guy that should be liable to the crime, not the provider.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Ed Carp <erc@...ox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Oh, stop it.  If you give your buddy a knife, knowing they're going to
> >> go out and stab someone with it, you're going to jail, too.  Stop
> >> playing the fool.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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