full-disclosure - Re: Congratulations Andrew

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Message-ID: <AANLkTim8js2U0PkzCd4XZYYQIVn29yJ7DcPj23kHl9UW@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:05:41 -0800
From: Josh Wheeler <jpavlakovich@...il.com>
To: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Subject: Re: Congratulations Andrew

Turtles aren't evil, they're just honeytraps out to get andrew.



On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>wrote:

> Turtles are scarier than a bomb on the other side of earth.
> They're evil!
>
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
>   On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:06 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>
>>   On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:44:06 +0200, "Jan G.B." said:
>>
>> > Oh and by the way.. he's still lobbying against FD, as you can see here:
>> > "Full disclosure is cyber terrorism" =>
>> > http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/105/511801/30/0/threaded
>>
>> Dude needs to learn to be consistent.  Kinda hard to support "FD is cyber
>> terrorism" while also whining about overinflated claims of cyberwarfare.
>>
>> In any case, his basic thesis is flawed. The fact that "most people seem
>> to
>> agree with me" doesn't in fact mean it's true, only that most CNet readers
>> are
>> just as confused as he is.  Full disclosure is *not* terrrorism, any more
>> than the weather service issuing a tornado alert is terrorism.  It may
>> mean
>> I have more work ahead, but that's true for a tornado alert as well.  And
>> most
>> importantly, I'm not terrorized - I'm fully informed and can take actions
>> accordingly.  It's *partial* disclosure that's terrorism.
>>
>> Consider the following two scenarios:
>>
>> "There are bombs at the following 7 specific locations, set to go off at
>> 4PM
>> local time. The trash bin behind 1123 Haymarket, in a box under the steps
>> at
>> 904 Maple, (etc etc)"
>>
>> "The Department of Homeland Security has received information indicating
>> an increased threat against building that have a 7 in the street address,
>> cars with a Q or J in the plate number, and turtles".
>>
>> Which one scares more people?
>>
>>
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