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Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 13:43:13 -0700 From: coderman <coderman@...il.com> To: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb@...neit.net> Cc: funsec@...uxbox.org, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, Joel Esler <joel.esler@...com>, Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org> Subject: Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes <tomb@...neit.net> wrote: > ... > What is needed is a cyberspace version of an armed citizenry. what is needed is preparedness and rapid repair. the science and technicalities of critical infrastructure protection are clear. you won't survive with top down prescriptive remedies. resilience as emergent property of preparedness in process and property is the only rational approach. this implies forethought and competence, which is sorely lacking in any technical endeavor involving the public gamut. a million Sarah Palins with "cyberweapons" to protect the populace? i'd like some of what you're smoking! > Pardon my arrogance [ignorance],.. so pardoned. P.S. it is left as an exercise for the reader to observe how the fragile, high degree nodes and paths in our communications, energy, transportation, and other critical infrastructure is an economic trade-off of necessity. modest robustness against random, intermittent (natural) failures are entirely incapable of defending against intelligent, targeted attack. no matter how far you over engineer redundancy and fail safe, a targeted attack can leverage the inherent weaknesses in large scale systems to their advantage by orders of magnitude. the math doesn't lie... P.P.S. the "War in the fifth domain" article at least touches on these realities, while the "Cyberwar" leader is utter trash. way to fail with flair, Economist! _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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