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Message-ID: <B7438C3F5BF780F9A7374577@utd65257.utdallas.edu>
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 09:44:29 -0500
From: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com>
To: Elazar Broad <elazar@...hmail.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk,
	peak@...o.troja.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: Expired certificate

--On Monday, August 02, 2010 12:36:37 -0400 Elazar Broad <elazar@...hmail.com> 
wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> <snip>
> Can't you? The world is full of unpatched systems. You can even find
> systems where patches are not installed because it is running a
> piece of
> mission critical software and they would lose support if they
> installed
> any patches (I am not making this up).
> </snip>
>
> Spot on. I know of one large accounting/ERP system(which shall
> remain nameless, though I am sure there are those out there who
> have come across it) that checked the SQL version, including the
> revision number at runtime, which made patching SQL impossible.
>

In those cases where there are such systems, there should be mitigating 
controls around them that increase the difficulty of break-in.  Otherwise the 
IT department is negligent.

-- 
Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions
are my own and not those of my employer.
*******************************************
"It is as useless to argue with those who have
renounced the use of reason as to administer
medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson

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