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Message-ID: <b586e54bcb3aac8841235d3123346482.squirrel@gameframe.net>
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 23:50:10 +0200
From: nix@...roxylists.com
To: rdsears@....edu
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: NiX - Linux Brute Forcer (the beast) has been
 released!]]

> In all fairness I do use proxychains for all of my proxy randomization and
> all that kind of stuff if I need it. That way it's consistent regardless
> of what I throw at it, even tools without random proxy chaining like nmap
> and hydra.

I am of course aware of proxychains as i use it myself. But lets get back
to one feature: Auto-removal of dead or unreliable proxy and when site
protection mechanism blocks the proxy

That is not possible using proxychains. A less your program depends on
other programs, the better. I am not saying, ten points to THC for coding
it in pure C.

I could not find any kind of FORM support from hydra, i have put a good
amount of time to FORM auto-detection logic as well (very good for less
advanced users).

Some people have asked what advantages NiX offers over other tools, this
question should have been answered now.

>
> Good job coding it though, I can't imagine that was easy.
> Ryan

Thanks, really difficult and time consuming project but i have verified it
to be stable (45k combolist and over 1000 proxies).

PS. If any of you downloaded yesterday 1.0.0 version, please download
immediately the latest 1.0.1 version is i forgot to fix something
important (told in CHANGELOG) before i packed the release version.

If you find a bug, just let me know and i try to fix it asap.

>
> On Nov 13, 2010, at 3:36 PM, nix@...roxylists.com wrote:
>
>>> Le vendredi 12 novembre 2010 Ã  21:47 +0200, nix@...roxylists.com a
>>> écrit :
>>>> Where is for example FORM auto-detection for those
>>>> other tools? Where is SOCKS4 proxy support? Where is proxy
>>>> randomization?
>>>> Where is logic to drop dead proxies? Where is logic for
>>>> fake-detection?
>>>
>>> Then, you should have started by that, it is that simple.
>>> We are all busy and you can't expect anyone to even have a look on
>>> your
>>> tool or link if you don't highlight how different it is from others or
>>> why you did it.
>>>
>>> As far as I am concerned, these features may be nice, but I don't need
>>> them and will stick to Medusa for the brute force tests I run from
>>> time
>>> to time (ie not often, a few times a year at most).
>>> But, to make it clear, it is just my personal opinion, I am not saying
>>> that your tool is not interesting or useless.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I just gave a test-run for Hydra against my own site and noticed:
>>
>> It does support only single proxy, any site that has even a bit
>> protection
>> will defeat it. NiX does support HTTP/SOCKS4/SOCKS5 (as much as you
>> have
>> working proxies) with randomization etc. This is significant advantage
>> over any other tool.
>>
>> I have worked 1.5 months constantly on NiX, after i have had a little
>> break. I will implement support for other major protocols which is now
>> really easy after having otherwise working engine.
>>
>>
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