Message-ID: <AANLkTi=zXaYDnMsO8eBHCmk15+A6t0=RtFqAmEBbvfsr@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:20:48 -0600
From: Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com>
To: huj huj huj <datskihuj@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Lee Vartan,
 Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security
 iPad case.

I have never denied the extensive production of politically motivated
art I have produced, including the iProphet. I will continue making
such compelling art to evoke emotion in my audiences.

Regardless, the empirical evidence points to me being:

* An anti-organized crime and anti-child pornography activist, a
practice which I have been engaging in for years upon years. I have
extensive evidence of merit to back this up and can say it under
penalty of perjury.
* A consumer rights advocate and white hat security researcher,
something I have been cited by other respected researchers and won
awards for public service for:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/14/were-awarding-goatse-security-a-crunchie-award-for-public-service/

and your idea of a reliable source of information is... hepkitten?
Clearly the only joke here is you, buddy.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:03 AM, huj huj huj <datskihuj@...il.com> wrote:
> of course you didn't... and you also don't have a beard and post lame rants
> as the iprophet :)
> as for me eating fecal matter, you're just envious
>
> you are not fighting anything other than your anonymity and empty wallet
>
> stop pretending otherwise nobody believes your silly little lies and
> misconceptions anyway
>
> you and the rest of your losercrew can go suck a lemon
>
> you were never anything.. hell hepkitten ousted you lol
>
> loser
>
>
> 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com>
>>
>> I never made those statements. They seem particularly ridiculous and
>> not even remotely in my rhetorical style. But for the sake of
>> argument, I have IRC logs showing that you're a degenerate shit eater:
>>
>> 01:42 < Hujhujhuj> last night I got a train run on me in a sling at a
>> pozzing party
>> 01:42 < Hujhujhuj> i loved having an ass packed full of semen
>> 01:42 < Hujhujhuj> after it was done 4 hairy bears shit on my chest
>> 01:44 < Hujhujhuj> i packed the delicious feces into my mouth and i
>> loved every single scrumptious bite
>> 01:46 < Hujhujhuj> im going to get tested later today, i hope its poz,
>> ive been trying for ages
>>
>> What do you have to say for yourself?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 AM, huj huj huj <datskihuj@...il.com> wrote:
>> > ah sorry it was 8k owned macs you wanted to sell to the russians..
>> > how very patriotic of you!!
>> > cunt :)
>> >
>> > 09:50 <weev> i gotta get some money
>> > 09:50 <weev> my cashflow sucks
>> > 09:51 <weev> whores
>> > 09:51 <weev> lavish cars
>> > 09:51 <weev> gigantic places to live
>> >
>> > 15:05 <weev> does anybody know these russians
>> > 15:06 <weev> that they are buying up hacked macs for 43 cents an install
>> > 15:26 <weev> i have access to like
>> > 15:26 <weev> 8k rooted macs
>> > 15:26 <weev> right now
>> > 15:26 <weev> and i would like to make a quick $3500
>> >
>> >
>> > 2010/11/18 huj huj huj <datskihuj@...il.com>
>> >>
>> >> yeah takes one to know one
>> >> you have always been a nobody chasing fame with silly memes and
>> >> smalltime
>> >> trolling
>> >> you keep talking about what others have done
>> >> well i save starving children in africa
>> >> i singlehandedly removed all german pedophiles from pattaya in 2009
>> >> i stopped the cold war between usa and cccp
>> >> i could go on but i already copied your silly lies too much
>> >> let me recap
>> >> you have done absolutely nothing to help anyone but yourself
>> >> you are a greedy delusional drugaddict(hey i like drugs too but be
>> >> realistic)
>> >> all you want is fame for your shattered ego
>> >> if you weren't such a joke you would make me sick
>> >> have a nice day :)
>> >>
>> >> 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com>
>> >>>
>> >>> Yawn, another nobody continuing to libel me. I've never performed any
>> >>> such thing, nor attempted to sell trojaned computers. Continuing to
>> >>> assert blatant falsehoods only lends credence to my case. Who are you?
>> >>> What have you done that means anything or helps the world?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj <datskihuj@...il.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > "and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized
>> >>> > crime"
>> >>> >
>> >>> > "Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and russki botnet
>> >>> > CNCs
>> >>> > we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales give back our
>> >>> > illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the evidence you want
>> >>> > of
>> >>> > it.
>> >>> > We have years and years of good public service under our belts. Do
>> >>> > you?"
>> >>> >
>> >>> > hahahahaha you're simply too funny
>> >>> >
>> >>> > what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on their systems
>> >>> > (the
>> >>> > ones you couldnt sell...)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx machines for sale
>> >>> >
>> >>> > fucking retard you're forgetting that information on the internet
>> >>> > doesnt go
>> >>> > away
>> >>> >
>> >>> > you are a joke and you make me laugh
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > keep it up :)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "The reality is that you are inconsequential to security because
>> >>> >> you
>> >>> >> are a script kiddie."
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Perhaps you are confused as to what this term means. Script kiddies
>> >>> >> are people who do not produce innovation of their own, and solely
>> >>> >> run
>> >>> >> things downloaded from Packetstorm. I have repeatedly stood up and
>> >>> >> done unique things to advance my nation, not just in information
>> >>> >> security but in an interdisciplinary manner. As far as my
>> >>> >> accomplishments in information security, I recently watched one of
>> >>> >> Samy Kamkar's presentations at Blackhat that cites our group
>> >>> >> repeatedly. One of our advisories is mentioned in his slides:
>> >>> >> http://i.imgur.com/YIl9I.jpg
>> >>> >> and he also states that cross-protocol scripting was "made big" by
>> >>> >> us.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> What about Robert Hansen/RSnake? He said "I don’t see anyone
>> >>> >> outside
>> >>> >> of a handful of people, like Weev, Wade Alcorn, Samy Kumkar, Aaron
>> >>> >> Weaver and myself doing this kind of research. There’s literally
>> >>> >> thousands of potentially exploitable services out there!" --
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100329/safari-integer-overflow-aids-inter-protocol-exploitation/
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> RSnake is well respected in the security community. Does he
>> >>> >> suddenly
>> >>> >> not know what he's talking about just for recognizing the validity
>> >>> >> of
>> >>> >> my research? I have stacks of internal government memos
>> >>> >> highlighting
>> >>> >> the implications of stuff we've outlined-- clearly a number of
>> >>> >> people
>> >>> >> think the things that we're doing are notable and have real world
>> >>> >> implications.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I do not post on this list looking for sympathy-- quite the
>> >>> >> opposite.
>> >>> >> Unlike you, I believe in free speech, and even want to give my
>> >>> >> deepest
>> >>> >> critics a chance to hop into the dialogue.
>> >>> >> Finally, your profession deserves to be cheapened. I've actually
>> >>> >> attempted to innovate, and who are you? Oh yeah, you're some dude
>> >>> >> that
>> >>> >> hits a button on Core Impact for a living. There are a number of
>> >>> >> amazing individuals in the information security community doing
>> >>> >> great
>> >>> >> things, but for every one of them there's a hundred snake-oil
>> >>> >> peddling
>> >>> >> losers who are the real scriptkiddies. Though dated, the PHC
>> >>> >> production of the same name rings true for individuals such as
>> >>> >> yourself. Maybe you should read it and it'll challenge you to
>> >>> >> actually
>> >>> >> do something useful instead of tossing ad hominems on a mailing
>> >>> >> list:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> http://antisec.wordpress.com/2005/12/18/hack4txt-a-phc-production-the-real-scriptkiddies/
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, R S <fifteenfourtyone@...il.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Speaking for only myself, I could care less about your personal /
>> >>> >> > political views. The reality is you are inconsequential to
>> >>> >> > security
>> >>> >> > because
>> >>> >> > you are a script kiddie. I had read articles about your various
>> >>> >> > high
>> >>> >> > profile
>> >>> >> > 'trolling' incidents before, but until your asinine post here had
>> >>> >> > never
>> >>> >> > bothered to research you. What I've read was nothing but
>> >>> >> > humorous.
>> >>> >> > At one
>> >>> >> > point you claim to hate bloggers, yet in a pre Web 2.0 world, you
>> >>> >> > and your
>> >>> >> > Encyclopedia Dramatica generation script kiddies would have no
>> >>> >> > notoriety at
>> >>> >> > all. Nobody would care about your bizarre high profile cries for
>> >>> >> > attention,
>> >>> >> > and personally, I certainly don't.
>> >>> >> > You are a troll and a script kiddie. Your whiney rants have no
>> >>> >> > place
>> >>> >> > on
>> >>> >> > a mailing list for the security community. I'm sure the kids that
>> >>> >> > support
>> >>> >> > you on various forums eat your crap up, but you will find little
>> >>> >> > sympathy
>> >>> >> > here. You claim constantly to hunt pedophiles, thats great.
>> >>> >> > Somehow
>> >>> >> > I'm sure
>> >>> >> > most people in prison have done good in their lives as well as
>> >>> >> > bad.
>> >>> >> > Hopefully, if my tax dollars do their job, you will have plenty
>> >>> >> > of
>> >>> >> > time in
>> >>> >> > the near future to contemplate all of this in jail.
>> >>> >> > Grow up kiddo. Personally I resent how you and your ilk cheapen
>> >>> >> > this
>> >>> >> > profession, and applaud law enforcement for doing their job.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > R
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > From: Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony () gmail com>
>> >>> >> > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:06:02 -0600
>> >>> >> > ________________________________
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Troy,
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > As with many of my critics, you insist on attempting to libel me
>> >>> >> > and
>> >>> >> > defame
>> >>> >> > my character (clearly having an objection to my political views)
>> >>> >> > instead
>> >>> >> > of
>> >>> >> > honestly debating the merits of my actions and the reality of my
>> >>> >> > many
>> >>> >> > well-received research contributions. I take ad hominem attacks
>> >>> >> > like
>> >>> >> > yours
>> >>> >> > in stride with the civility and grace befitting of a Christian
>> >>> >> > man,
>> >>> >> > and
>> >>> >> > urge
>> >>> >> > you to think more critically before you say more things that
>> >>> >> > will embarrass you in front of your peers.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > "You see no evidence of"
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Your implication that because you have not seen evidence of
>> >>> >> > something it
>> >>> >> > has
>> >>> >> > not happened is fallacious. Regardless, I will enlighten you with
>> >>> >> > some
>> >>> >> > history of our anti-pedophile activity (with links to backdated
>> >>> >> > posts
>> >>> >> > pedophile posts detailing our successes against their
>> >>> >> > infrastructure
>> >>> >> > and
>> >>> >> > payment systems, emails with full headers and evidence of ongoing
>> >>> >> > pedophile
>> >>> >> > activity), some of which predates the iPad incident by years.
>> >>> >> >  You
>> >>> >> > haven't
>> >>> >> > seen any evidence of it because we, unlike many people, do not
>> >>> >> > wear
>> >>> >> > every
>> >>> >> > bit of public service we do on our sleeve. We live in the spirit
>> >>> >> > of
>> >>> >> > Matthew
>> >>> >> > 6:6.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
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