Message-ID: <AANLkTimZHaeH7VFvr4dyxgV2zY+vSeX45OwMwnY0eVnu@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:12:03 +0100
From: huj huj huj <datskihuj@...il.com>
To: Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Lee Vartan,
 Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security
 iPad case.

i didnt get the info from hepkitten? i dont see where you got that fact from
what i said was that hepkitten ousted you from bantown
maybe if you learned how to read your life would be easier..
white hat security researcher my ass
is phishing myspace and livejournal accounts through lame memes whitehat? i
doubt it..
get a grip and pull that dildo out of your ass you retard

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com>

> I have never denied the extensive production of politically motivated
> art I have produced, including the iProphet. I will continue making
> such compelling art to evoke emotion in my audiences.
>
> Regardless, the empirical evidence points to me being:
>
> * An anti-organized crime and anti-child pornography activist, a
> practice which I have been engaging in for years upon years. I have
> extensive evidence of merit to back this up and can say it under
> penalty of perjury.
> * A consumer rights advocate and white hat security researcher,
> something I have been cited by other respected researchers and won
> awards for public service for:
>
> http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/14/were-awarding-goatse-security-a-crunchie-award-for-public-service/
>
> and your idea of a reliable source of information is... hepkitten?
> Clearly the only joke here is you, buddy.
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:03 AM, huj huj huj <datskihuj@...il.com> wrote:
> > of course you didn't... and you also don't have a beard and post lame
> rants
> > as the iprophet :)
> > as for me eating fecal matter, you're just envious
> >
> > you are not fighting anything other than your anonymity and empty wallet
> >
> > stop pretending otherwise nobody believes your silly little lies and
> > misconceptions anyway
> >
> > you and the rest of your losercrew can go suck a lemon
> >
> > you were never anything.. hell hepkitten ousted you lol
> >
> > loser
> >
> >
> > 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com>
> >>
> >> I never made those statements. They seem particularly ridiculous and
> >> not even remotely in my rhetorical style. But for the sake of
> >> argument, I have IRC logs showing that you're a degenerate shit eater:
> >>
> >> 01:42 < Hujhujhuj> last night I got a train run on me in a sling at a
> >> pozzing party
> >> 01:42 < Hujhujhuj> i loved having an ass packed full of semen
> >> 01:42 < Hujhujhuj> after it was done 4 hairy bears shit on my chest
> >> 01:44 < Hujhujhuj> i packed the delicious feces into my mouth and i
> >> loved every single scrumptious bite
> >> 01:46 < Hujhujhuj> im going to get tested later today, i hope its poz,
> >> ive been trying for ages
> >>
> >> What do you have to say for yourself?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 AM, huj huj huj <datskihuj@...il.com>
> wrote:
> >> > ah sorry it was 8k owned macs you wanted to sell to the russians..
> >> > how very patriotic of you!!
> >> > cunt :)
> >> >
> >> > 09:50 <weev> i gotta get some money
> >> > 09:50 <weev> my cashflow sucks
> >> > 09:51 <weev> whores
> >> > 09:51 <weev> lavish cars
> >> > 09:51 <weev> gigantic places to live
> >> >
> >> > 15:05 <weev> does anybody know these russians
> >> > 15:06 <weev> that they are buying up hacked macs for 43 cents an
> install
> >> > 15:26 <weev> i have access to like
> >> > 15:26 <weev> 8k rooted macs
> >> > 15:26 <weev> right now
> >> > 15:26 <weev> and i would like to make a quick $3500
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2010/11/18 huj huj huj <datskihuj@...il.com>
> >> >>
> >> >> yeah takes one to know one
> >> >> you have always been a nobody chasing fame with silly memes and
> >> >> smalltime
> >> >> trolling
> >> >> you keep talking about what others have done
> >> >> well i save starving children in africa
> >> >> i singlehandedly removed all german pedophiles from pattaya in 2009
> >> >> i stopped the cold war between usa and cccp
> >> >> i could go on but i already copied your silly lies too much
> >> >> let me recap
> >> >> you have done absolutely nothing to help anyone but yourself
> >> >> you are a greedy delusional drugaddict(hey i like drugs too but be
> >> >> realistic)
> >> >> all you want is fame for your shattered ego
> >> >> if you weren't such a joke you would make me sick
> >> >> have a nice day :)
> >> >>
> >> >> 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yawn, another nobody continuing to libel me. I've never performed
> any
> >> >>> such thing, nor attempted to sell trojaned computers. Continuing to
> >> >>> assert blatant falsehoods only lends credence to my case. Who are
> you?
> >> >>> What have you done that means anything or helps the world?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj <datskihuj@...il.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > "and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized
> >> >>> > crime"
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > "Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and russki
> botnet
> >> >>> > CNCs
> >> >>> > we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales give back
> our
> >> >>> > illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the evidence you want
> >> >>> > of
> >> >>> > it.
> >> >>> > We have years and years of good public service under our belts. Do
> >> >>> > you?"
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > hahahahaha you're simply too funny
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on their
> systems
> >> >>> > (the
> >> >>> > ones you couldnt sell...)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx machines for
> sale
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > fucking retard you're forgetting that information on the internet
> >> >>> > doesnt go
> >> >>> > away
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > you are a joke and you make me laugh
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > keep it up :)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony@...il.com>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> "The reality is that you are inconsequential to security because
> >> >>> >> you
> >> >>> >> are a script kiddie."
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Perhaps you are confused as to what this term means. Script
> kiddies
> >> >>> >> are people who do not produce innovation of their own, and solely
> >> >>> >> run
> >> >>> >> things downloaded from Packetstorm. I have repeatedly stood up
> and
> >> >>> >> done unique things to advance my nation, not just in information
> >> >>> >> security but in an interdisciplinary manner. As far as my
> >> >>> >> accomplishments in information security, I recently watched one
> of
> >> >>> >> Samy Kamkar's presentations at Blackhat that cites our group
> >> >>> >> repeatedly. One of our advisories is mentioned in his slides:
> >> >>> >> http://i.imgur.com/YIl9I.jpg
> >> >>> >> and he also states that cross-protocol scripting was "made big"
> by
> >> >>> >> us.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> What about Robert Hansen/RSnake? He said "I don’t see anyone
> >> >>> >> outside
> >> >>> >> of a handful of people, like Weev, Wade Alcorn, Samy Kumkar,
> Aaron
> >> >>> >> Weaver and myself doing this kind of research. There’s literally
> >> >>> >> thousands of potentially exploitable services out there!" --
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100329/safari-integer-overflow-aids-inter-protocol-exploitation/
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> RSnake is well respected in the security community. Does he
> >> >>> >> suddenly
> >> >>> >> not know what he's talking about just for recognizing the
> validity
> >> >>> >> of
> >> >>> >> my research? I have stacks of internal government memos
> >> >>> >> highlighting
> >> >>> >> the implications of stuff we've outlined-- clearly a number of
> >> >>> >> people
> >> >>> >> think the things that we're doing are notable and have real world
> >> >>> >> implications.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I do not post on this list looking for sympathy-- quite the
> >> >>> >> opposite.
> >> >>> >> Unlike you, I believe in free speech, and even want to give my
> >> >>> >> deepest
> >> >>> >> critics a chance to hop into the dialogue.
> >> >>> >> Finally, your profession deserves to be cheapened. I've actually
> >> >>> >> attempted to innovate, and who are you? Oh yeah, you're some dude
> >> >>> >> that
> >> >>> >> hits a button on Core Impact for a living. There are a number of
> >> >>> >> amazing individuals in the information security community doing
> >> >>> >> great
> >> >>> >> things, but for every one of them there's a hundred snake-oil
> >> >>> >> peddling
> >> >>> >> losers who are the real scriptkiddies. Though dated, the PHC
> >> >>> >> production of the same name rings true for individuals such as
> >> >>> >> yourself. Maybe you should read it and it'll challenge you to
> >> >>> >> actually
> >> >>> >> do something useful instead of tossing ad hominems on a mailing
> >> >>> >> list:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> http://antisec.wordpress.com/2005/12/18/hack4txt-a-phc-production-the-real-scriptkiddies/
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, R S <fifteenfourtyone@...il.com
> >
> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Speaking for only myself, I could care less about your personal
> /
> >> >>> >> > political views. The reality is you are inconsequential to
> >> >>> >> > security
> >> >>> >> > because
> >> >>> >> > you are a script kiddie. I had read articles about your various
> >> >>> >> > high
> >> >>> >> > profile
> >> >>> >> > 'trolling' incidents before, but until your asinine post here
> had
> >> >>> >> > never
> >> >>> >> > bothered to research you. What I've read was nothing but
> >> >>> >> > humorous.
> >> >>> >> > At one
> >> >>> >> > point you claim to hate bloggers, yet in a pre Web 2.0 world,
> you
> >> >>> >> > and your
> >> >>> >> > Encyclopedia Dramatica generation script kiddies would have no
> >> >>> >> > notoriety at
> >> >>> >> > all. Nobody would care about your bizarre high profile cries
> for
> >> >>> >> > attention,
> >> >>> >> > and personally, I certainly don't.
> >> >>> >> > You are a troll and a script kiddie. Your whiney rants have no
> >> >>> >> > place
> >> >>> >> > on
> >> >>> >> > a mailing list for the security community. I'm sure the kids
> that
> >> >>> >> > support
> >> >>> >> > you on various forums eat your crap up, but you will find
> little
> >> >>> >> > sympathy
> >> >>> >> > here. You claim constantly to hunt pedophiles, thats great.
> >> >>> >> > Somehow
> >> >>> >> > I'm sure
> >> >>> >> > most people in prison have done good in their lives as well as
> >> >>> >> > bad.
> >> >>> >> > Hopefully, if my tax dollars do their job, you will have plenty
> >> >>> >> > of
> >> >>> >> > time in
> >> >>> >> > the near future to contemplate all of this in jail.
> >> >>> >> > Grow up kiddo. Personally I resent how you and your ilk cheapen
> >> >>> >> > this
> >> >>> >> > profession, and applaud law enforcement for doing their job.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > R
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > From: Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony () gmail com>
> >> >>> >> > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:06:02 -0600
> >> >>> >> > ________________________________
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Troy,
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > As with many of my critics, you insist on attempting to libel
> me
> >> >>> >> > and
> >> >>> >> > defame
> >> >>> >> > my character (clearly having an objection to my political
> views)
> >> >>> >> > instead
> >> >>> >> > of
> >> >>> >> > honestly debating the merits of my actions and the reality of
> my
> >> >>> >> > many
> >> >>> >> > well-received research contributions. I take ad hominem attacks
> >> >>> >> > like
> >> >>> >> > yours
> >> >>> >> > in stride with the civility and grace befitting of a Christian
> >> >>> >> > man,
> >> >>> >> > and
> >> >>> >> > urge
> >> >>> >> > you to think more critically before you say more things that
> >> >>> >> > will embarrass you in front of your peers.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > "You see no evidence of"
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Your implication that because you have not seen evidence of
> >> >>> >> > something it
> >> >>> >> > has
> >> >>> >> > not happened is fallacious. Regardless, I will enlighten you
> with
> >> >>> >> > some
> >> >>> >> > history of our anti-pedophile activity (with links to backdated
> >> >>> >> > posts
> >> >>> >> > pedophile posts detailing our successes against their
> >> >>> >> > infrastructure
> >> >>> >> > and
> >> >>> >> > payment systems, emails with full headers and evidence of
> ongoing
> >> >>> >> > pedophile
> >> >>> >> > activity), some of which predates the iPad incident by years.
> >> >>> >> >  You
> >> >>> >> > haven't
> >> >>> >> > seen any evidence of it because we, unlike many people, do not
> >> >>> >> > wear
> >> >>> >> > every
> >> >>> >> > bit of public service we do on our sleeve. We live in the
> spirit
> >> >>> >> > of
> >> >>> >> > Matthew
> >> >>> >> > 6:6.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
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