full-disclosure - Re: An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:35:18 +0200
From: Andriy Tereshchenko <tag@...odessa.ua>
To: "Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)" <lists@...osecurity.ch>
Cc: Full Disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

Hi Fabio and others Full-Disclosure readers,

Have you seen how WikiLeaks are editing already released cables?

Seems like WikiLeaks do not believe in Full-Disclosure and WL
"partners" has already created "Ministry of Truth" (from Orwell's
final novel 1984).

For example in http://wikileaks.ch/cable/2008/07/08OTTAWA918.html
on Dec 14 20:58 GMT entire paragraph about law been an "distraction"
for law enforcement bodies was deleted:

WAS (starting from Nov 30 07:18 GMT)
"¶3. (S/NF) Responding to Dr. Cohen's query, Judd said CSIS had
responded to recent, non-specific intelligence on possible terror
operations by "vigorously harassing" known Hezbollah members in
Canada. According to Judd, CSIS' current assessment is that no attack
is "in the offing" in Canada. He noted, however, that Hezbollah
members, and their lawyers, were considering new avenues of litigation
resulting from recent court rulings that, Judd complained, had
inappropriately treated intelligence agencies like law enforcement
bodies (refs A and C). The Director observed that CSIS was "sinking
deeper and deeper into judicial processes," making Legal Affairs the
fastest growing division of his organization. Indeed, he added, legal
challenges were becoming a "distraction" that could have a major
"chill effect" on intelligence officials."

NOW (starting from ~Dec 14 20:58 GMT):
"¶3. (S/NF) XXXXXXXXXXXX"

Source: Cablegate-Diff-201012142058 from
http://www.privetbank.com.ua/cablegate/index.html

Wikileaks hiding names is acceptable, but why legit content of USG
cable is edited and deleted? Newspeak?
Who can be hurt or killed because of this paragraph?

If citizens in a democracy want their governments to reflect their
wishes, they should ask to see what’s going on during WikiLeaks
publishing/editing.
--
Andriy G. Tereshchenko
Odessa, Ukraine

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
<lists@...osecurity.ch> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> i've been writing during past week a concept of leak management system with the following main differences with wikileaks:
>
> Concentrate on leak amplification to let leaks reach media
> No editing or publishing
> Fully distributed organizations
> Use best of existing anonymous networks (TOR/FreeNET)
>
> It has been named "openleak" (without the "s") but maybe it would be better to change the name due to the misconfusion of "openleak.org" with "openleaks.org" (the one in progress from daniel berg, ex-wikileaks).
>
> The OpenLeakProject.pdf with methodology analysis can be downloaded from https://uloadr.com/u/91.pdf .
>
> Maybe nothing will be done, maybe something will be done, who know.... i just want to share my idea with the nerdish hackish security community.
>
> That concept would require to be reviewed, to be put on the web ed eventually start a community to discuss it and build-it ?
>
> Who know?
>
> Anyone willing to participate to a project like this contact me, maybe we can arrange something?
>
> Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
> blog http://infosecurity.ch

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