full-disclosure - Re: What the f*** is going on?

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Message-ID: <20110222230110.GE4876@ownco.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:01:10 -0500
From: jf <jf@...co.net>
To: coderman <coderman@...il.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: What the f*** is going on?

> > Anyone from the AV industry got a big set and want to step up and talk about your aurora attacks?
> 
> make the operating environment hostile and resilient to attackers. no
> AV product can do that from within the system that must be resilient
> against attack.
> 
> (not to say AV is worthless, but more akin to crowd based negative
> reputation assignment of known malicious payloads rather than any
> protection against same...)

you misunderstood the question; but damn, thats swift, quick someone get me the red phone!

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